[annotator-dev] Fwd: Notes on Annotation Call 8/2/12

Randall Leeds tilgovi at hypothes.is
Thu Aug 2 17:03:02 UTC 2012

Notes, taken by Andrew Magliozzi,  from a call bringing everyone up to date
on what's being talked about re: Annotator and openannotation.org.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Andrew Magliozzi" <andrew at finalsclub.org>
Date: Aug 2, 2012 9:56 AM
Subject: Notes on Annotation Call 8/2/12
To: "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Jamie M Folsom" <jfolsom at mit.edu>, "Kurt E Fendt" <fendt at mit.edu>,
"Randall Leeds" <tilgovi at hypothes.is>, "Nick Stenning" <
nick.stenning at okfn.org>, "Paolo Ciccarese" <paolo.ciccarese at gmail.com>,
"Andrew Magliozzi" <Andrew at finalsclub.org>

*Motive*: Work together to have one or two "good implementation(s)" of the
Open Annotation Model.

*Roll Call*

*HyperStudio (Kurt & Jamie)*: Working at MIT primarily on
scholarly academic approach to research, allowing students and professors
to annotate text and other types of media.  Annotator is very effective for
their purposes and all additional work will be open source.
    - Note that Yuma-JS (cf Rainer Simon's current work) is working on map
and image annotation and integration with Annotator on a plugin basis.
     - Most curious about the Annotator Store and how to explore an open
standard for annotating all types of media.  All of their work will be open

*OA (Rob & Paolo): *Affirmative for open standards for annotation
data-sharing that are flexible, interoperable, and tool-agnostic.  Rob is
at Los Alamos labs and Paolo is at Harvard Medical School.
     - Suggests that Hyperstudio folks connect with Phil Desenne - *
desenne at fas.harvard.edu* - who is working to annotate video and slides and
has similar objectives at Harvard.
     - In terms of diffs between digital texts, see the work of the
National Information Standards Organization.

*FinalsClub (Andrew): *Primarily a student-based approach to annotate great
texts (collaboratively with OpenShakespeare.org and Textus) as well as
student notes/study guides.  Ready to go with the flow in terms of any
standards that are adopted, particularly given the work we've done with *Nick
Stenning* to convert FinalsClub annotations to OpenShakespeare.

*Hypothes.is (Randall): *Biggest interest is having a canonical
intermediate format for adapting data between different services.
 Currently Annotator delivers content in very clean JSON, but there is
always room for improvement.  Changes will ideally take place at the API
level rather than the guts of the program so that the architecture can work
with most any system and application.
     - See also the work around using FluidInfo.com w/r/t the Annotator


1) How and if to make it possible to annotate texts (notably Text Encoding
Initiative) and convert those annotations to another target format...
(Jamie Folsom)
    Rob notes that there are folks at Columbia and Brown who have done some
work in this... Julia Flanders group at Brown et. al.

2) Video and Image Annotation
    Look into Popcorn.js as well as Yuma-JS

3) How can we create a common symposium or gathering?


    - Working on better APIs for the Annotator Store...
    - Exploring integrations for data porting (e.g. - Mendeley.com)
    - Encourage other developers to hack and share along the same lines
    - Implementing OA stuff on the storage layer
    - Making the store ready for Hypothes.is to deploy a site for
annotating websites
    - Interested in talking about the text-to-text diffs for annotation
          - Talk to Andrew & Nick about the OpenShakespeare conversion and
a potential use of GitHub for doing diffs.

*    *- Will be implementing their tools at MIT this fall and will be
soliciting user feedback from MIT students to make UX changes.
    - Looking to participate and collaborate with other institutions, but
this will require a common data store to effectively share annotations.
    - *Wish List*: a command line tool to convert Annotator JSON to OA
format.  (Very interested in helping allow the most users to participate in
a common discussion platform agnostic.)

   - Will be encouraging students to share academic work and annotate each
other's notes.
   - Will continue to work on improving the OpenShakespeare project.

   - Create a mapping document between Annotator and OA  (*Randall* has
code and a demo using JSON lb to export from annotator and go to an OA
format - i.e. XML, RDF, et. al.)
   - Would love to help folks annotating medieval manuscript images and
integrate with annotator...
          - Some real synergy between Annotator and Yuma-JS would be great
for annotating text and image as well.
   - Back end descriptive format stabilized in the next six months.

*Additional Note:*
    - Attend the Take Note conference that Ann Blair and others are holding
this November at Harvard
         - See: http://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/event/2012-take-note
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