[ckan-dev] Recline & IE7

[David Read]

On 20 June 2012 16:19, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com> wrote:
> On 20 June 2012 13:13, Adrià Mercader <amercadero at gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 to the notice on IE7
>> Just to give some context, here are the % of visitors on
>> thedatahub.org and publicdata.eu
>>
>> TDH: IE7 1.63%, IE6 0.3%
>> PDEU: IE7 3.6%, IE6 0.7%
>
> data.gov.uk: IE7 17.3%, IE6 5.6%
> (for the last month)

Apologies, these were the proportion out of visits from just IE
versions. The proportion of the total visits are
data.gov.uk: IE7 6.6%, IE6 2.1%

David

>
> I saw this other analysis of government traffic that broadly agrees
> and shows IE6 has thankfully got a half life of a year:
> http://www.delib.net/dblog/good-news-on-ie6-government-usage-plummets-in-2012/
>
> So we're not doing IE6 compatibility work going forward. But you can
> see it is very important for us that we support IE7, and no doubt
> other governments aren't much different. Since we are replacing much
> of the theme, we are doing it to IE7 specs, but we need to ensure
> compatibility when using JS libraries. We have Bootstrap, JQuery,
> JSTree etc which all play (mostly) fine with IE7, so it would be great
> if Recline could be patched up too.
>
> David
>
>>
>> David, It'd we great to get hold of these numbers for data.gov.uk,
>> with presumably a wider governmental audience
>>
>> On 20 June 2012 12:56, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com> wrote:
>>> On 20 June 2012 12:44, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>> On 20 June 2012 12:40, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com> wrote:
>>>>> Rufus,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for this. How about displaying a message saying 'this does not
>>>>> work in IE7', rather than printing text all over the rest of the web
>>>>> page? It would be worth noting this limitation in the docs too.
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case we should. My point was I don't know what parts do
>>>> and don't work -- we don't tend to test on IE. Feedback like yours
>>>> (and patches) are warmly welcomed -- I was just saying that it may be
>>>> tough to deliver this given IE's many limitations. That said I'm
>>>> pretty sure the new default grid implementation using SlickGrid does
>>>> work in IE7.
>>>
>>> Yes that seems to be the case.
>>> https://github.com/mleibman/SlickGrid/wiki mentions IE6 is
>>> specifically not supported, which suggests it is not the cause of the
>>> Recline problems in IE7.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As you know, a significant number of government and industry users are
>>>>> on this browser.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>>> Rufus
>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 June 2012 12:30, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 20 June 2012 12:05, David Read <david.read at hackneyworkshop.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi CKAN devs,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There seem various problems with CKAN 1.7.1 beta when viewed in
>>>>>>> Internet Explorer 7 - see screenshot http://imgur.com/FKkNg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In particular, Recline has IE7 bugs and simply doesn't load, leaving
>>>>>>> the 'loading' symbol continously swirling. I made a number of fixes on
>>>>>>> our copy of recline.js which you may want to pull.
>>>>>>> https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-dgu/commit/97a816a99edd70ff6c300f54765907a716c5384c
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is great David! However most of these are to Recline itself so
>>>>>> can you apply the patches upstream to Recline [1] - CKAN merges from
>>>>>> upstream Recline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]: https://github.com/okfn/recline
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there still seems major issues displaying the grid and scrolling
>>>>>>> simply doesn't work - see screenshot http://i.imgur.com/Zfcb7 . Is
>>>>>>> this something you're able to look at?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Supporting IE7 for rich JS applications is a huge PITA (and often
>>>>>> impossible). The basic answer may be: "get a decent browser" - while
>>>>>> this is nice to have functionality it is not absolutely essential and
>>>>>> IE7 is now 6y old ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>
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