[ckan-discuss] s/package/data set/g

Tue Jul 26 08:37:11 BST 2011

I'm still +1 re dataset but if the majority thinks that package is the  
'better' term (for whatever 'better' means in this context) I guess  
I'll just shut up.

>>> I'm certainly -1 on this because I think it might confuse the users.

Jindra, that's an interesting question. Who *are* the users? Can  
anyone point me to a precise definition of what we consider a profile  
of a typical and maybe a not-so-typical (aka power user), please?  
Maybe I've missed this one ...

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On 26 Jul 2011, at 08:27, Tim McNamara wrote:

> I personally prefer 'package' also. My thinking was that dataset would
> be less confusing. From Jindřich's comments, that assumption may not
> be valid and there are probably more important tickets to work on.
>
> Have we had any direct complaints? If not, I suggest that we focus on
> other areas.
>
> 2011/7/26 Pablo Mendes <pablomendes at gmail.com>:
>> Have you guys discussed what to do with "resources" when package  
>> becomes
>> dataset? Datasets continue containing resources? Or datasets contain
>> datasets?
>>
>> I didn't really have anything against package. Does "data package"  
>> please
>> greeks and trojans?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Pablo
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2011 10:45 AM, "Jindřich Mynarz"  
>> <mynarzjindrich at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm certainly -1 on this because I think it might confuse the users.
>>> The package is not the dataset, it's a *description* (metadata) of  
>>> the
>>> dataset [1]. Maybe it's not the best term to use, but it's better  
>>> than
>>> to lead users to expect they can find the datasets themselves at the
>>> Data Hub.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Jindrich
>>>
>>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MagrittePipe.jpg
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Rufus Pollock <rufus.pollock at okfn.org 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 25 July 2011 05:17, Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas at deri.org 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the term "package" should be removed from  
>>>>>> thedatahub.org
>>>>>> and replaced with "data set" or "dataset". While CKAN is to be  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Debian of data, I think "dataset" would lead to fewer mental  
>>>>>> steps for
>>>>>> new comers.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> This has already been discussed quite a lot (e.g. it's one of the
>>>> items on the UX refactor page: <http://wiki.ckan.net/UX>) and I  
>>>> think
>>>> there is general agreement on this. The issue here is that it is a
>>>> (relatively) costly refactor so we are waiting for the right time  
>>>> to
>>>> do it (we can try doing it slightly 'hackily' by just using i18n  
>>>> but I
>>>> think this is a short term approach).
>>>>
>>>> Rufus
>>>>
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