[ckan-discuss] Ckan 2.0: Adding datasets to groups that you are not a part of

Tue May 7 16:20:57 BST 2013

Hi Joe,

Doesn't seem to have made a difference based on what I can tell. Here is a brand new dataset that I just added on the demo site: http://demo.ckan.org/dataset/test35
And I was able to add it to Group SkeenaWild Conservation Trust, of which I am not a member: http://demo.ckan.org/group/members/skeenawild

Just to be clear, I do like this functionality (as an option for sites who want to move in this direction). Under CKAN 1.7/1.8, you could do this by just adding logged-in as an editor on groups you wanted to be open for anyone who was logged in. I think what's interesting in the demo site is that I can login and add my dataset to any of the groups and edit my own dataset, but I cannot edit the datasets of others (so it looks like I'm not actually an editor for the group).

In any case, it could just be a configuration option that I'm overlooking or something. More than anything, I'm really just trying to get a sense of the direction the CKAN software is trying to move in and what type of governance model it is trying to make available for added data. To me, the above functionality is more like an open government model (like Wikipedia) where having a logged-in feature (like in 1.7/1.8) could allow more community-oriented maintenance of datasets (where applicable), whereas the functionality of the current master is more of a centrally managed model where users can only add datasets to groups if they are manually provided permissions. Just my two cents on the matter.

Frank C. Bracco
City of Houston
Finance Department
Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov<mailto:Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov>
w:(832) 393-9093

From: Joe Tsoi [mailto:joe.tsoi at okfn.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Bracco, Frank - FIN
Cc: Adrià Mercader; ckan-discuss at lists.okfn.org
Subject: Re: [ckan-discuss] Ckan 2.0: Adding datasets to groups that you are not a part of

I've just adria's https://github.com/okfn/ckanext-repo/tree/master/ckanext/repo plugin to demo, if you scroll to the bottom you'll see
     Using 18d5859<https://github.com/okfn/ckan/commit/18d5859> from branch release-v2.0.
     Last updated 2013-04-08 16:14:48.
I think this issue was the same as https://github.com/okfn/ckan/pull/509 which I think was merged into release-v2.0 after demo was upgraded

On 7 May 2013 14:52, Bracco, Frank - FIN <Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov<mailto:Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov>> wrote:
Hi Adria, Toby, and Joshua,

So what I'm hearing is the version 2 on the Demo site is older than the beat and current master. So some commit changed something along the way. I can also confirm logged_in has not effect.

Sounds like we probably just need to wait it out until the dev team gets a chance to do an authorization review and clean-up in 2.1 :-).

Thanks for the great information and responses,

Frank C. Bracco
City of Houston
Finance Department
Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov<mailto:Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov>
w:(832) 393-9093<tel:%28832%29%20393-9093>
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From: Adrià Mercader [mailto:adria.mercader at okfn.org<mailto:adria.mercader at okfn.org>]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [ckan-discuss] Ckan 2.0: Adding datasets to groups that you are not a part of
Hi Frank,

demo.ckan.org<http://demo.ckan.org> seems to be running a quite old version of ckan. I get the exact behaviour that you are describing in beta.ckan.org<http://beta.ckan.org> and the latest master, so I suspect something has changed on the way.

@Tobes, @David, is there a way under the new auth to allow adding datasets to groups to all users? AFAICT the "logged_in" user has no effect anymore?

Thanks,

Adrià

On 3 May 2013 18:29, Bracco, Frank - FIN <Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov<mailto:Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov>> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I was hoping to get some feedback here. The City of Houston and Code
> for Houston are trying to implement an open data portal for the
> region. The gameplan we're discussing is for each government entity to
> be an organization with its own permissions while groups would be
> topical areas (like GIS, Environmental, Public Safety, etc.) and
> Departmental based catalogs of the datasets. Anyone in any of the
> organizations (or not in an organization who happens to have an
> account) could add their dataset to any one of the groups. In the CKAN
> demo site, any user can add a dataset to a
> group:
>
> ·         See this dataset I added to the CKAN4RDM-test group:
> http://demo.ckan.org/dataset/test14
>
> ·         You can also see I'm not a member of that group (there is only one
> member): http://demo.ckan.org/group/members/ckan4rdm-test
>
>
>
> Over on our installation, however, I cannot add datasets to groups
> that weren't created by me (http://data.codeforhouston.com). We've
> tried adding logged_in as an editor and admin to the groups, but that
> doesn't seem to be solving the problem. Is there some sort of patch
> that needs to be added or default setting in a config file that needs
> to be changed. I know there is an outstanding issue to make it easier
> to find the permissions page for groups
> (https://github.com/okfn/ckan/issues/844) but that still doesn't seem to add the problem we're experiencing over on our side.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any feedback you might be able to provide,
>
>
>
> Frank C. Bracco
>
> City of Houston
>
> Finance Department
>
> Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov<mailto:Frank.Bracco at houstontx.gov>
>
> w:(832) 393-9093<tel:%28832%29%20393-9093>
>
>
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