[datahub-discuss] Organizations and dataset ownership/write access

[Ross Jones]

Unfortunately, strictly one organization at the moment.  We still need a workable way of grouping together datasets (that isn’t a group).

On 30 Oct 2013, at 04:12, Richard Cyganiak <richard at cyganiak.de> wrote:

> Thanks Ross. One more question: Is it possible for a dataset to be in multiple organizations (like it was for groups) or is it strictly one?
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> Richard
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>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 18:32, Ross Jones <ross at servercode.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>>> On 29 Oct 2013, at 07:27, Richard Cyganiak <richard at cyganiak.de> wrote:
>>> Please make me a member of the lodcloud organization. I'm one of the admins of the old lodcloud group. I will try to get some additional people involved with running the org. If anyone reading this would like to volunteer, please speak up :-)
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>> Great, I’ve added you as an admin, and now you will be able to add other admins, or members (can add datasets but can’t manage the organization itself).
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>>> A few questions regarding how to make this new organization model work for us.
>>> 1. Are there any urgent administrative tasks pertaining to the organization that should be done?
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>> Not really.  At present I need to have another sweep of the database to see if there are any datasets in the Global org that belong elsewhere. I think getting more people onto the org would be v.helpful in order to manage the lodcloud datasets - not that I think there’s a huge amount that needs doing atm.
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>>> 2 The lodcloud group is not an "organization" as such, but a loose community. In the group, most (but not all) of the dataset creation and editing was done by the people who published the dataset. So there were lots of people who would just edit their one or two datasets. Is this kind of usage compatible with the organization model?
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>> Organization’s are not *really* just for organizations, they’re actually the same as groups, but with added permissions and controls so that you have to be allowed to add datasets.  We may open up the Global group at some point (which has lots of group-less datasets and the remaining spam) so that anyone can post to it, but probably subject to some form of workflow,check of first post, that sort of thing.
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>>> 3. Should we recommend that people registering new LOD datasets create organizations now, and create the dataset within the organization?
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>> If they’re adding one or two, it may be worth just getting them to add it to lodcloud.  I think it is worth having your own org if you think it is really important that you have control over a limited set of people’s ability to add datasets.  I suspect lodcloud is likely to be one or two admins and lots of members.
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>>> 4. Should we try to move the existing datasets out of the lodcloud organizations to their "real" organizations?
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>> Only if there’s a benefit to it, I’m not sure there is.
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>>> 5. Not that I expect to have time to help out with this, but when you say that you seek help with moving stuff out of the Global organization, then *where* do you want to move it? Do you want to create Datahub organizations for all the real organizations publishing these datasets? Who would run/manage these organizations then?
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>> Ideally people would claim them and want them moved somewhere else, but a lot of datasets have been created and don’t need any maintenance, they can be left in the Global org, their /dataset/* url will still work.  I think the amount of spam is definitely at a more manageable level, but it would be helpful if others were admins of Global so that they can help move things if people request it.  
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>> I’m not complaining about having to do it, it’s my fault they’re there in the first place ;)
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>> Ross
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