[ECODP-dev] Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers
Darwin Peltan
darwin.peltan at okfn.org
Tue Jun 25 11:52:49 UTC 2013
Hi Agnieszka,
I agree it could be clearer. I should have said in my last email that for
release 09.00 we have added a link to "Your profile" in the top navigation
bar for logged in users. This page has a list of the users datasets and
we've also added a list of publishers the user is a member of so it's
easier to find the datasets they can edit.
Best,
Darwin
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On 25 June 2013 12:09, ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP) <
Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu> wrote:
> Dear Darwin,****
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> Thank you for the explanation. I tested it and indeed it works that way. *
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> Although I must admit it's not very intuitive ****
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> Regards,****
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> Agnieszka****
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> *From:* Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 6:46 PM
> *To:* ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)
> *Cc:* ISOARD Olivier (OP); Bert Van Nuffelen; Project list for EC ODP
> CKAN project; HOHN Norbert (OP)
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> *Subject:* Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers****
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> Dear Agnieszka,****
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> Thanks for your email. The profile page shows the datasets that the logged
> in user has created themselves. (It doesn't currently list all the datasets
> that are owned by that users organisations as this could be quite a big
> list). ****
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> The best way to edit other datasets is to browse to the dataset whilst
> logged in (either by searching for it or by browsing the list of datasets
> from the relevant publisher). Once viewing the dataset page you will see an
> edit button below the title. ****
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> Best,****
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> Darwin****
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> On 20 June 2013 13:25, ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP) <
> Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu> wrote:****
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> Hello Darwin,****
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> I've made a test with DG Empl whose data have been imported via the CKAN
> API. If I understood well your last e-mail the user within the same entity
> should be able to see and edit data. So I logged in as EMPL user. The
> outcome is visible below: the dataset imported via API is not even visible.
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> Is it abnormal? How the edit can be made then?****
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> Thanks in advance for feedback,****
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> Agnieszka ****
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> http://open-data.europa.eu/en/data/publisher/empl****
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> *From:* Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:36 PM
> *To:* ISOARD Olivier (OP)
> *Cc:* Bert Van Nuffelen; Project list for EC ODP CKAN project; ZAJAC
> Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP)****
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> *Subject:* Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers****
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> ****
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> Hi,****
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> ****
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> Thank you for the additional information. If the datasets have been
> imported via the CKAN API (rather than rdf2ckan) and assigned to a
> publisher they can be edited by any user who's part of the same publisher.
> Therefore if you create users within the relevant publishers they will be
> able to edit the meta-data. ****
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> Best,****
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> Darwin****
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *ISOARD Olivier (OP)* <Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu>
> Date: 19 June 2013 10:40
> Subject: RE: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers
> To: Darwin Peltan <darwin.peltan at okfn.org>, Bert Van Nuffelen <
> bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>, Project list for EC ODP CKAN project <
> ecodp-dev at lists.okfn.org>
> Cc: "ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)" <Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu>,
> "HOHN Norbert (OP)" <Norbert.HOHN at publications.europa.eu>****
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> Hi,****
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> Well….****
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> Ø During the prototyping phase, pilot data providers ingested dataset
> into ODP database located @10F premises. Some using batch mode, others
> using interactive interface****
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> Ø At some point in time (end 2012), that records have been exported from
> 10F instance and imported into PROD instance for the opening, using special
> script. Because that special script used the batch mode to re-import the
> data, all these datasets belong now to "api" user.****
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> The question now is to define how those data providers may come on ODP
> PROD and update their data sets. ****
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> ****
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> Ø For those who published it initially using batch mode, this shouldn't
> be a problem, they just have to re-submit new version of RDF package****
>
> Ø For the ones that came initially via interactive interface (web site
> form), it is another story because even if we create dedicated account for
> them (which is planned), they will not have access to past published
> dataset (which belong to "api" because of the migration)****
>
> ****
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> So, here the question debated below: In order to solve the issue for data
> provider who was using the website interface for publishing during
> prototyping phase, would it be possible (even by script) to move existing
> data set from "api" to another account the data provider may access ?****
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> ****
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> Hope this is clearer.****
>
> Olivier****
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> *From:* Darwin Peltan [mailto:darwin.peltan at okfn.org] ****
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:23 AM
> *To:* Bert Van Nuffelen; Project list for EC ODP CKAN project****
>
> *Cc:* ISOARD Olivier (OP); ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP); HOHN Norbert (OP)****
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers****
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> Hi,****
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> From the email thread below it's a bit unclear to me what you'd like to
> change here. If you can summarise please we can advise. ****
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> Best,****
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> Darwin****
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> On 19 June 2013 08:29, Bert Van Nuffelen <bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hi Olivier,
>
> I forward this question to Darwin. So far I am unaware of an easy
> track for doing such kind of changes.
> @Darwin, can you take this up for this afternoon?
>
> kind regards,
>
> Bert
>
> 2013/6/19 ISOARD Olivier (OP) <Olivier.ISOARD at publications.europa.eu>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > And what about the possibility from CKAN to change the owner of a
> dataset? If this is possible, then we can imagine re-dispatching these
> datasets, initially migrated under "api", to the actual right provider,
> once we will have created corresponding separated accounts?
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bert Van Nuffelen [mailto:bert.van.nuffelen at tenforce.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:25 AM
> > To: ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP)
> > Cc: HOHN Norbert (OP); ISOARD Olivier (OP)
> > Subject: Re: Update of metadata provided by "old" data providers
> >
> > Hi Agnieszka,
> >
> > a quick reply from my knowledge:
> >
> > In general we were involved here only in validation and a migration
> > process from the release 00.05.0x to release 00.06.0x
> > For EEA I am 100% sure we only validated the rdf2ckan package.
> > For the others there has been a migration from an old DB to a new via
> > the api. That could possible be a reason for not able to update them
> > as datasets inserted via the api are not editable by a user.
> >
> > kind regards,
> >
> > Bert
> >
> > 2013/6/19 ZAJAC Agnieszka (OP) <Agnieszka.ZAJAC at publications.europa.eu>:
> >> Hello Bert,
> >>
> >> During tomorrow's telco we would like to raise a new subject – to find
> out
> >> how to update metadata of the data providers that were sending them
> directly
> >> to you can be done.
> >> It concerns Environment Agency and a few DGs eg. Regio, EAC, Empl, Budg
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Agnieszka Zając
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