[epsi-coord] Belgian case description

Sun Nov 6 19:33:02 GMT 2011

Thanks, I will publish them tomorrow morning.
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On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Hans Graux <hans.graux at timelex.eu> wrote:

> Hi Ton and Marc,
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> I have sent the descriptions to a colleague of mine for review, and he
> made a few editorial improvements and corrected a few errors. The versions
> in attachment should be suitable for publication now.
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> The abuse of dominance angle is very interesting. Since the CBE
> commercially exploits the data as well, it could be seen as a competitor to
> Infobase. However, I’m not sure if the claim would be upheld, mainly for
> two reasons. Firstly, I think the CBE could claim that they’re not playing
> in the same market. The CBE sells raw data to third parties, whereas
> Infobase analysis this data, enriches it, and then sells the result onward.
> CBE might credible claim that they’re more of a supplier than a competitor,
> which would undermine the legal argument, or at least Infobase’s standing.
> Secondly, the CBE could claim that they’re not dominant in the market,
> because there are other data suppliers: Infobase itself, but also Graydon
> and Dun & Bradstreet (who are in fact both mentioned by name in the
> decision, in relation to an unproven claim by Infobase that they might be
> using the CBE without these restrictions). All of these have other
> information sources than the CBE, so the CBE’s position of market dominance
> is not so clear cut.
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> I’m not sure how the argument would turn out. The court didn’t mention it
> in its ruling, so it’s probably best not to speculate on it here. Might be
> an interesting topic for a future TR, though.
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> Hans
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> P.S. I may miss part of the call tomorrow, due to a workshop with an
> uncertain end time. I’ll do my best to be there on time, though.
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> *Van:* epsi-coord-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
> epsi-coord-bounces at lists.okfn.org] *Namens *Marc de Vries
> *Verzonden:* zondag 6 november 2011 17:17
> *Aan:* epsi-coord at lists.okfn.org
> *CC:* epsi-coord at lists.okfn.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [epsi-coord] Belgian case description
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> Hans, Ton,
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> I had à look at the case and i find it very interesting and well
> summarized. Hans, the licencing condition to report changes or mistakes
> could that pne even be considered abuse of dominance? Just à thought...
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> Regards,
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> Marc
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> Op 6 nov. 2011 om 14:23 heeft Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
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> Hans,
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> have these been proof-read already, by Patricia or otherwise?
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> Are they ready to publish?
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> best,
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> Ton
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Hans Graux <hans.graux at timelex.eu> wrote:
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> Following on my earlier mail, in attachment you’ll find a report for the
> Ryanair decision. Again, a fairly complicated one, so I hope it is
> sufficiently clear.  I also included an update of the Belgian report, which
> contained a typo (wrong decision date).
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> Best regards,
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> Hans
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> *Van:* Hans Graux [mailto:hans.graux at timelex.eu]
> *Verzonden:* woensdag 2 november 2011 13:19
> *Aan:* epsi-coord at lists.okfn.org
> *Onderwerp:* Belgian case description
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> Hi all,
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> In attachment you’ll find a description for the Belgian case I mentioned
> during Monday’s call. It’s a fairly interesting one (well, to a lawyer
> anyway…), but it might be a bit complex with a fair amount of legal
> terminology. Your impressions and any suggestions for improvements are as
> always welcome.
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> I’ll try to submit a second case description for the Ryanair v. Commission
> case this afternoon.
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> Best regards,
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> Hans
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