[epsi-coord] Fwd: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats tomorrow at EUparl 10am

Mon Dec 10 10:29:13 GMT 2012

ok, will take a look at that today. thanks Marc. (reminder to self: always
check our own platform first for the info I need ;) )
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On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Marc de Vries <
operationpettycoat at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Katleen described the legislative procedure in her TR on the new
> Directive. I am pretty sure we can build on that, to à large extent.
>
> Reg. M
>
> Op 10 dec. 2012 om 11:00 heeft Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> missed this e-mail from you before. Yes, it is a good idea. However I am
> as much confused and walking blind on this as the general public. Dates
> keep floating around, and change, steps get shifted, and the EC never seems
> to be willing to explicitly state what is going to happen next. So we'd
> also need to try and discuss this with the EC. To get up a tracking page
> like you say.
>
> Maybe I can ping Katalin at the EC on this, see if she can provide
> additional info on this?
>
> best,
> Ton
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this makes me think if we should boot a page that would list / track all
>> the steps of the PSI directive. This should be easy to understand. I think
>> most people out there have no good understanding what exactly happens to
>> the directive. We could update it and point to it as a reference.
>>
>> Could we suggest this to the commission instead of one TR or so? What do
>> people think?
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> > From: <Richard.Swetenham at ec.europa.eu>
>> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats
>> tomorrow at EUparl 10am
>> > Date: 4 December 2012 16:38:48 CET
>> > To: <b.ooghe at gmail.com>, <bollecs at sollec.org>, <
>> open-government at lists.okfn.org>, <euopendata at lists.okfn.org>, <
>> okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>, <transparency-tech at googlegroups.com>, <
>> okfn-fr at lists.okfn.org>, <contact at regardscitoyens.org>
>> >
>> > Please note that, contrary to what you say in the Regards Citoyens blog
>> post, the trialogue will not take place after the EP plenary vote. The
>> purpose of the  trialogue procedure is to negotiate and to reach an
>> agreement in first reading - the EP plenary and the Council need to vote on
>> identical  texts.
>> >
>> > The  trialogue procedure  starts after the lead EP committee has voted.
>> This is normally followed by two further meetings.
>> >
>> > The first trialogue meeting is scheduled to take place on 17 December.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Richard SWETENHAM
>> > Adviser for Open Data
>> > European Commission
>> > Directorate General for Communications Networks, Content and Technology
>> > (DG CONNECT)
>> > ________________________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Mail: EUFO 1/193, European Commission, L-2920 Luxembourg
>> > Tel: +352 4301 32400 Mobile: +352 621 350 971
>> > E-mail: richard.swetenham at ec.europa.eu
>> > Twitter: @EC_opendata
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
>> euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou
>> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:08 PM
>> > To: Ricardo Lafuente; Open Government WG List; EU Open Data Working
>> Group; okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org; transparency-tech at googlegroups.com;
>> OKFN fr
>> > Cc: contact at regardscitoyens.org
>> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats
>> tomorrow at EUparl 10am
>> >
>> > Hey Ricardo and everyone else,
>> >
>> > Sorry for the silence: we did relay the result on twitter as soon as
>> > we knew it but we couldn't do more since we are all busy at our
>> > respective jobs as Regards Citoyens is composed only of volunteers.
>> >
>> > Indeed the compromise amendment 18 was adopted, which means machine
>> > readable and platform independant will be required for open formats as
>> > defined for EU PSI (if the text survives the plenary and then the
>> > trialogue parliament/commission/council of course), which is already
>> > quite good, but not enough in our opinion :
>> > the amendment 65 was proposing to specifiy that such formats should be
>> > the result of an open-development process in order to avoid the risk
>> > of having proprietarized or patented standards used. Unfortunately
>> > this one was refused so far.
>> >
>> > The next step now is the discussion of the PSI directive revision in
>> > plenary, which should come along the next months, most probably in
>> > March. Then there will be a trialogue with the European commission and
>> > the European council who will give their minds for the process that
>> > will result into the final text, which national parliaments will then
>> > have to transpose.
>> >
>> > It will be useful by then to continue to contact members of the
>> > European parliament in order to let them know why this is an important
>> > matter and prepare them to propose new amendments.
>> >
>> > We will try and gather all pieces together and make a more detailed
>> > e-mail and/or blog post during the coming days.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Benjamin for Regards Citoyens
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Ricardo Lafuente <bollecs at sollec.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hello Benjamin!
>> >>
>> >> I just read on the @RegardsCitoyens Twitter account that amendment 18
>> passed
>> >> and 65 did not. Which is mostly great news -- thank you all involved
>> in this
>> >> effort! Can you provide a link for the results announcement?
>> >>
>> >> Also, can you please clarify the next steps that this process will take
>> >> until it is enacted as an EU directive, and are there still obstacles
>> in the
>> >> way? Amendment 18 (machine-readable formats) is absolutely crucial for
>> most
>> >> of our efforts here in Portugal, where most PSI content is almost
>> >> exclusively available in hard-to-parse PDF.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you again! Cheers to all who have been enlightening the MEPs!
>> >> :r
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/28/2012 04:24 PM, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> As you all probably know, PSI directive is being revised regarding
>> >>> reuse soon at the European Parliament. Tomorrow at 10am
>> >>>
>> >>> <
>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/itre/draft-agendas.html?linkedDocument=true&ufolderComCode=ITRE&ufolderLegId=7&ufolderId=11208&urefProcYear=&urefProcNum=&urefProcCode=#menuzone
>> >,
>> >>> the ITRE comittee will discuss it and will vote among other things on
>> >>> amendments defining what open formats are.
>> >>>
>> >>> We just sent to all MEPs from the commitee (cf
>> >>> <https://memopol.lqdn.fr/search/?q=committees:ITRE%20is_active:1>) a
>> >>> note explaining why we believe it is important to ensure this
>> >>> definition includes a reference to requiring machine-readable (vote
>> >>> for compromise amendment 18) and an open development process (vote for
>> >>> amendement 65 from Amelia Andersdotter):
>> >>>
>> >>> <
>> http://www.regardscitoyens.org/documents/20121128-RegardsCitoyens-PSI-reuse-open-formats.pdf
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> We believe this is a very important matter for OpenData so we call on
>> >>> all of you to maybe help us on this advocacy run till tomorrow
>> >>> morning.
>> >>>
>> >>> An efficient way to participate to this work would be to send priorily
>> >>> emails or tweets to the ALDE or PPE members of the ITRE commitee in
>> >>> order to advise them to vote for compromise amendement 18 and
>> >>> amendment 65.
>> >>> <https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23PSI&src=typd>
>> >>>
>> >>> Good evening and good luck to us all! ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou for Regards Citoyens
>> >>>
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