[EU-lobby-data] Fwd: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data

Natacha Cingotti natacha.cingotti at foeeurope.org
Tue Jan 15 12:20:13 UTC 2013

maybe that's useful to others as well, I just found out that all the 
pages below logomark at least are different than the irst one, you see 
some graph and figures. then the differences rely on the small yellow 
notices, where you can click and see what the purpose of such page or 
button is.  It's not like navigating areal website or having access to 
all pages yet, but already helpful.

On 15/01/2013 12:57, ester wrote:
> Personally, I do like what I can see. I like the colors, the typo and 
> the general image. It looks clean, simple and professional to me. So 
> in my opinion they could continue working on that direction.
> And regarding the structure, maybe we need to refine it a little bit 
> (what to include in primary and secondary navigation), but in 
> principle I would also agree with it. It is easy to understand, it 
> allows us to include all the info we want and it is easy to highlight 
> the latest info.
> To give a definitive feedback, I guess we would need to be able to 
> navigate and see different pages, to start with. I see always the same 
> one, no matter which link I choose. It also says there will be a 
> slideshow, but I can't see it.
> They also ask for a logo. As far as I know we don't have one. Will 
> they do it? Or is someone else suppose to do it?
> Cheers,
> Ester
> On 15/01/13 12:19, Timo Lange wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Mathilde now asks for feedback concerning the visuals (which I still
>> haven't been able to see yet). What I understood from you is that there
>> is not enough there yet to give a clear feedback. Can you comment anyway
>> on it? What do we need to give a definitive feedback?
>> I guess Friedrich is still unavailable?
>> Kind regards
>> Timo
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Betreff: URGENT - Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data
>> Datum: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:58:45 +0100
>> Von: Mathilde<mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
>> An: Timo Lange<timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>,  Friedrich Lindenberg
>> <friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>
>> Hello both of you,
>> for the guys at Curve agency, they need answers to the questions below
>> as soon as possible.
>> Friedrich - any news on how they can retrieve the dtabase?
>> Have you been able to look at the visuals? Can I give them sign off so
>> that they can continue?
>> Timo, it would be great if you could let me know when would be a good
>> moment to call?
>> Thanks!
>> Mathilde
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	Update on Lobby facts and urgent question regarding data
>> Date: 	Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:09:40 +0100
>> From: 	Mathilde<mathilde at tacticaltech.org>
>> To: 	Friedrich Lindenberg<friedrich.lindenberg at okfn.org>, Timo Lange
>> <timo.lange at lobbycontrol.de>
>> Hello both of you!
>> Happy new year!! I hope you had a great Christmas period and start to
>> the year.
>> So I have a couple of questions
>> First, and most urgent - the guys at Curve agency have had problems with
>> the data. They have spent 3 days on sorting it, duplicates etc.
>> It would seem that it was assumed the API export would be the full
>> database, but in fact does not correspond to the full data. The easiest
>> at this stage (and sorry, I assumed had been the case already) is if
>> they can have access to the database itself... Friedrich, is this
>> possible? and if not, how come...?
>> This is a few words they sent to describe their problem:
>> We've tried to pull content from the API as best we can and we have
>> succeeded in getting the correct amount of content from the API in all
>> instances - so for example we succeeded in pulling out 11,233 people
>> from the system, but when importing data this data set seems to miss
>> lots of people out. To combat this, we also tried to pull a list of
>> 'heads' and 'legal' straight from the representatives, but again there
>> seems to be data missing. We've concluded that without direct database
>> access we're not confident in the data that is being returned by the API
>> and how complete this data is. In summary the API is returning
>> incomplete data.
>> Another issue we're facing (which you're obviously aware of is duplicate
>> content). There are several rows of duplicate data in the system, but
>> there are also many rows of data where the ID's are the same (we're
>> using the IDs as unique identifiers in our system), but other data might
>> be slightly different. It's difficult to know which data we should trust
>> in this instances as obviously we're less knowledgeable about this data
>> than yourselves.
>> This is quite a problem, because the agreement with them, was not to
>> spend time on data cleaning and sorting etc... and unfortunately they
>> have had to do this... and this means spend time that has not been
>> accounted for (yet..) They know we are very tight on budget.. but they
>> are asking that additional budget can be considered. Timo, I don't know
>> how much is there and possible.. but it is true that this has caused
>> them a lot of extra work.. to be discussed...
>> They have given me access to design start they have which I give you
>> here to login
>> They are otherwise happy with how it is advancing and the progress.
>> Please click on the following link to activate your account:
>> http://curveagency.hotgloo.com/activate/d5d3d3760eae9869a1bff48bffb399f701b360b1
>> Use the username and password provided below to sign in:
>> Username:mathilde at tacticaltech.org
>> Password: fdc386b9
>> Let me know on thoughts about this data question.. sorry to bother you
>> Friedrich, but maybe again it is better you talk to them directly so
>> that every body is clear on what is the situation...
>> Take care!
>> Mathilde
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