[euopendata] [bigclean] Idea: screen scraping sprint -> 19.3.2011

Fri Mar 11 12:52:00 UTC 2011

Hi Antti,

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Antti Poikola <antti.poikola at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/11/2011 12:21 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>
>> Hey Antti, Jindřich, all,
>>
>> I was wondering about the blog post and more general about the
>> announcement of this big clean*1. Its just 9 days left and my impression is
>> that there is almost no publicly visible propaganda for this event.
>
> For me there is actually no problem if we even don't announce it, this is
> any how meant to be a preparatory event where we collect experiences for the
> real Big Clean which will come later on?
>

I think there is not such a need for a proper OKFN blogpost, a tweet
would do. We don`t have trouble getting publicity and we have almost
reached the maximum capacity of the venue we`ve booked for the event
(almost 50 participants have registered). However, I think we should
take action and write something to replace the "placeholder" texts on
the BigClean.org website. I have added a little bit, but we need more.

>> I am very sure that you guys will make great events in Prague and
>> Jyväskylä and may be else ware. I am just a little bit concerned to announce
>> it as a "major global hackathon" because this might make people think about
>> massive evolvement and responding results and so might "burn" our efforts
>> for further events. My proposal is to announce it asap publicly on the OKFN
>> Blog (and hopefully elsewhere) but to make a clear point that this is *not*
>> the major big big clean, but rather a first round of local and mostly small
>> hacking events*2.
>
> Who has talked about announcing this one as a major global hackathon? The
> global event will follow, maybe in May, this is just local preparatory
> twin-event. I will put my effort in getting people to Jyväskylä event and
> making it well. For that reason I will update some English text to the
> bigclean-site, but I don't really feel like actually putting it to the OKFN
> blog beforahand...

Yes, this is a preparatory event. I think that even if we had put up a
blogpost for OKFN there wouldn`t be enough time for other cities to
prepare their own events. Maybe a better option is to write a post
after the preparatory event about the experiences with it to incite
people to attend to the next Big Clean.

Best,

Jindrich

>
> -Jogi
>
>> Does this makes sense? WHat do people think?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 1* http://bigclean.org/
>> 2* http://wiki.okfn.org/TheBigClean
>>
>>
>> On 07.03.2011, at 10:43, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jindrich,
>>>
>>> On 06.03.2011, at 14:31, Jindřich Mynarz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for your work you`ve put into the Big Clean`s website. I`ve
>>>> created a page for the Czech event in Prague at
>>>> http://www.bigclean.org/praha. The page is in Czech to reflect the
>>>> language of the audience.
>>>
>>> Excellent!
>>>
>>>> Since I don`t have the full admin rights and I can`t change the
>>>> website`s menu, can you please put a link to this page to the menu,
>>>> where you`ve created the sample page for city (where the placeholder
>>>> "Your city here" is)?
>>>
>>> Done.
>>>
>>>> Next, I`ll plan to write some description for the international part
>>>> of the website.
>>>
>>> That would be amazing! We could also need this *asap* for a blog post on
>>> the OKF site to announce the event. @Antti: Are up for this?
>>>
>>> Regard
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Jindrich
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Daniel Dietrich
>>>> <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> www.bigclean.org is online and has now some very very basic content.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have added Antti and Jildrich to be Editors of the website. Other
>>>>> volunteers are very welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also re-discovered this wiki page
>>>>>
>>>>>     http://wiki.okfn.org/TheBigClean
>>>>>
>>>>> and I think we should communicate it as the main site for coordination
>>>>> of the cities since it's much easier to access and edit for everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, let's move ahead and quickly add content to the wiki / wp site and
>>>>> make this a real great event!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel Dietrich
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On 04.03.2011, at 10:09, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Antti and others,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.bigclean.org is part of the Word Press multisite of the OKFN. If
>>>>>> you would like contribute with content, etc you will need to register as a
>>>>>> "community member" at the OKFN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    http://okfn.org/register/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will then add you as a editor to the Big Clean. Please ping me of
>>>>>> list once you have registered or if you need any assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have started with a theme (I hope you like it) but encounter a
>>>>>> problem with the images. More precisely with timthumb.php that makes
>>>>>> tumbnails and rezises images. I had to change :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    $src = preg_replace("/\.\.+\//", "", $src);
>>>>>>    to
>>>>>>    $src = preg_replace("/files/", "/wp-content/blogs.dir/26/files/",
>>>>>> $src);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case that someone has similar problems. Now it works and we
>>>>>> can start adding content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03.03.2011, at 19:55, Antti Poikola wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cool Daniel!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could I get rights to create content:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> username: apoikola
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/03/2011 04:37 PM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> website is online: http://bigclean.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am now working on design / themeing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And adding some structure and content to the side. More later
>>>>>>>> today...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03.03.2011, at 12:29, Rufus Pollock wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2 March 2011 19:46, Antti Poikola<antti.poikola at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Really great response from so many people and special thanks to
>>>>>>>>>> Daniel for
>>>>>>>>>> volunteering to halp with the site!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About the general categories of data "what to scrape", I think we
>>>>>>>>>> can take
>>>>>>>>>> the list from below and give it as inspiration for the
>>>>>>>>>> participants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I make a suggestion: use http://ckan.net/ :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specifically let's agree the tag: bigclean (or thebigclean) and
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> just tag (and register) relevant datasets on ckan. Remember you can
>>>>>>>>> register datasets on CKAN which don't yet have any downloadable
>>>>>>>>> resources (but would after the big clean ;) )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rufus
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PS:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I allready invited some of you in person to subscribe to the list
>>>>>>>>>> where we
>>>>>>>>>> organize the Big Clean - bigclean at lists.okfn.org. But here the
>>>>>>>>>> subscription
>>>>>>>>>> link for all: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/bigclean
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/02/2011 06:36 PM, Chris Taggart wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Off the top of my head, I'd say (and some of them overlap):
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Democratic data: elected members, committee membership,
>>>>>>>>>> meetings,
>>>>>>>>>> minutes, agendas, electoral districts
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Financial data: spending, accounts, budgets, contracts
>>>>>>>>>> 3) Geographic data: boundaries (inc electoral districts),
>>>>>>>>>> buildings,
>>>>>>>>>> assets (e.g. schools, hospital, depots)
>>>>>>>>>> 4) Demographic data (often held by national statistics bodies)
>>>>>>>>>> 5) Performance data - education, social care, road maintenance,
>>>>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>>>>> which is often delivered at the local level.
>>>>>>>>>> 6) Policy data: forward plans, zoning/planning approvals
>>>>>>>>>> 7) Transport data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to see OpenlyLocal be the focus of some of this, in part
>>>>>>>>>> because it makes sense, in part because we've done a lot of the
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>> and could avoid reinventing the wheel, in part because it would be
>>>>>>>>>> nice to get other countries' data in there, and in part it would
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> nice to get some EU funding for what up to now has been entirely
>>>>>>>>>> self-funded ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've also been pretty successful at doing scoreboards that make a
>>>>>>>>>> difference (over 70 UK councils now with open data sections).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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