[euopendata] [open-government] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats tomorrow at EUparl 10am

Wed Dec 5 11:37:31 UTC 2012

Just to let you all know - the post has now been updated to reflect this
discussion:
http://blog.okfn.org/2012/12/03/lets-defend-open-formats-for-public-sector-information-in-europe/

All the best,

Theodora

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou <b.ooghe at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks a lot for this information, as we explained, we don't have any
> prior experience with EU institutions which explains our confusion.
> We unfortunatly cannot modify ourself the OKFN blog post anymore.
> We'll suggest a modification to the blog administrator.
> Meanwhile, it would be very useful if you could explain this in a
> comment under the post !
> <
> http://blog.okfn.org/2012/12/03/lets-defend-open-formats-for-public-sector-information-in-europe/
> >
>
> Thanks a lot in advance,
>
> Benjamin for Regards Citoyens
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:38 PM,  <Richard.Swetenham at ec.europa.eu> wrote:
> > Please note that, contrary to what you say in the Regards Citoyens blog
> post, the trialogue will not take place after the EP plenary vote. The
> purpose of the  trialogue procedure is to negotiate and to reach an
> agreement in first reading - the EP plenary and the Council need to vote on
> identical  texts.
> >
> > The  trialogue procedure  starts after the lead EP committee has voted.
> This is normally followed by two further meetings.
> >
> > The first trialogue meeting is scheduled to take place on 17 December.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard SWETENHAM
> > Adviser for Open Data
> > European Commission
> > Directorate General for Communications Networks, Content and Technology
> > (DG CONNECT)
> > ________________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Mail: EUFO 1/193, European Commission, L-2920 Luxembourg
> > Tel: +352 4301 32400 Mobile: +352 621 350 971
> > E-mail: richard.swetenham at ec.europa.eu
> > Twitter: @EC_opendata
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
> euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:08 PM
> > To: Ricardo Lafuente; Open Government WG List; EU Open Data Working
> Group; okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org; transparency-tech at googlegroups.com;
> OKFN fr
> > Cc: contact at regardscitoyens.org
> > Subject: Re: [euopendata] [ITRE Nov 29th] PSI votes on Open Formats
> tomorrow at EUparl 10am
> >
> > Hey Ricardo and everyone else,
> >
> > Sorry for the silence: we did relay the result on twitter as soon as
> > we knew it but we couldn't do more since we are all busy at our
> > respective jobs as Regards Citoyens is composed only of volunteers.
> >
> > Indeed the compromise amendment 18 was adopted, which means machine
> > readable and platform independant will be required for open formats as
> > defined for EU PSI (if the text survives the plenary and then the
> > trialogue parliament/commission/council of course), which is already
> > quite good, but not enough in our opinion :
> > the amendment 65 was proposing to specifiy that such formats should be
> > the result of an open-development process in order to avoid the risk
> > of having proprietarized or patented standards used. Unfortunately
> > this one was refused so far.
> >
> > The next step now is the discussion of the PSI directive revision in
> > plenary, which should come along the next months, most probably in
> > March. Then there will be a trialogue with the European commission and
> > the European council who will give their minds for the process that
> > will result into the final text, which national parliaments will then
> > have to transpose.
> >
> > It will be useful by then to continue to contact members of the
> > European parliament in order to let them know why this is an important
> > matter and prepare them to propose new amendments.
> >
> > We will try and gather all pieces together and make a more detailed
> > e-mail and/or blog post during the coming days.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Benjamin for Regards Citoyens
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Ricardo Lafuente <bollecs at sollec.org>
> wrote:
> >> Hello Benjamin!
> >>
> >> I just read on the @RegardsCitoyens Twitter account that amendment 18
> passed
> >> and 65 did not. Which is mostly great news -- thank you all involved in
> this
> >> effort! Can you provide a link for the results announcement?
> >>
> >> Also, can you please clarify the next steps that this process will take
> >> until it is enacted as an EU directive, and are there still obstacles
> in the
> >> way? Amendment 18 (machine-readable formats) is absolutely crucial for
> most
> >> of our efforts here in Portugal, where most PSI content is almost
> >> exclusively available in hard-to-parse PDF.
> >>
> >> Thank you again! Cheers to all who have been enlightening the MEPs!
> >> :r
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/28/2012 04:24 PM, Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> As you all probably know, PSI directive is being revised regarding
> >>> reuse soon at the European Parliament. Tomorrow at 10am
> >>>
> >>> <
> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/itre/draft-agendas.html?linkedDocument=true&ufolderComCode=ITRE&ufolderLegId=7&ufolderId=11208&urefProcYear=&urefProcNum=&urefProcCode=#menuzone
> >,
> >>> the ITRE comittee will discuss it and will vote among other things on
> >>> amendments defining what open formats are.
> >>>
> >>> We just sent to all MEPs from the commitee (cf
> >>> <https://memopol.lqdn.fr/search/?q=committees:ITRE%20is_active:1>) a
> >>> note explaining why we believe it is important to ensure this
> >>> definition includes a reference to requiring machine-readable (vote
> >>> for compromise amendment 18) and an open development process (vote for
> >>> amendement 65 from Amelia Andersdotter):
> >>>
> >>> <
> http://www.regardscitoyens.org/documents/20121128-RegardsCitoyens-PSI-reuse-open-formats.pdf
> >
> >>>
> >>> We believe this is a very important matter for OpenData so we call on
> >>> all of you to maybe help us on this advocacy run till tomorrow
> >>> morning.
> >>>
> >>> An efficient way to participate to this work would be to send priorily
> >>> emails or tweets to the ALDE or PPE members of the ITRE commitee in
> >>> order to advise them to vote for compromise amendement 18 and
> >>> amendment 65.
> >>> <https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23PSI&src=typd>
> >>>
> >>> Good evening and good luck to us all! ;)
> >>>
> >>> Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou for Regards Citoyens
> >>>
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