[euopendata] [open-government] Commission - PSI Directive

Thu Apr 11 07:01:39 UTC 2013

Dear Erik and daniel and folks,

if y ou followed the negotiations regarding the
PSI Directive between 1998 and 2001 you would know
the most sensitive issues and why they will NOT
change.
 - compulsory free of charge pricing not feasible,
especially not in times of scarce public
budgeting.
- if you would extend free pricing also to
cultural institutions, this sector will be out of
the Directive.

At least in Austria there was NO dialogue between
the cultural institutions and the other
stakeholder groups in the past 5 years regarding
extending the scope of the PSI Directive.
This has to be done by you guys and not be the
national goverments. Unless this dialogue has not
been started off, the cultural sector will stay
out.

(from a technical point of view some cultural
institutions are 20 years ahead of other public
dataholders. You may license, pay and download
digital objects within 50min at home).
But FREE pricing is a no go for most of them,
since their revenues are more and less important
for their whole department.

Best regards,

Gerhard, Vienna

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org
[mailto:open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org] Im
Auftrag von Daniel Dietrich
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. April 2013 23:12
An: Erik Borälv; Open Government WG List; EU Open
Data Working Group
Betreff: Re: [open-government] [euopendata]
Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of
EU Open Data rules

Thanks Erik! Has someone already analysed it?
Whats in it regarding to our most burning
questions: Licensing, pricing and the extension of
the directive to include cultural heritage
institutions. Is the previously progressive
proposal of the commission watered down? I would
like to hear what other people find in it.

Daniel

On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:19, Erik Borälv
<Erik.Boralv at VINNOVA.se> wrote:

> And here it is...
> 
> Cheers,
> Erik Borälv
> VINNOVA - The Swedish Innovation Agency
> 
> ________________________________________
> Från: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org
[euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] för Ton
Zijlstra [ton.zijlstra at gmail.com]
> Skickat: den 10 april 2013 18:10
> Till: Daniel Dietrich
> Kopia: Open Government WG List; EU Open Data
Working Group
> Ämne: Re: [euopendata] [open-government]
Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of
EU Open Data rules
> 
> Did that as well. Asked EC and sent a request to
the Dutch representative.
> 
> best,
> Ton
> 
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> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Daniel Dietrich
<daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at o
kfn.org>> wrote:
> Hi Katleen,
> 
> On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:04, Katleen Janssen
<Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be<mailto:Katleen.Ja
nssen at law.kuleuven.be>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> It may take a while for the official document
will appear in the Council's document register. I
think the best thing to do is ask the Commission
or our national representatives for a copy.
> 
> This is what I just did. Lets see who gets the
answer first :)
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
>> 
>> If I understood it correctly, there was already
a trialogue going on, so the Parliament's approval
in June should in theory only be a formal
matter...
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Katleen
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org<mailto:open
-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org>
[mailto:open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org<mai
lto:open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org>] On
Behalf Of Daniel Dietrich
>> Sent: woensdag 10 april 2013 17:01
>> To: Open Government WG List
>> Cc: EU Open Data Working Group
>> Subject: [open-government] Commission welcomes
Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> with interest I have read todays press release:
>> 
>> Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement
of EU Open Data rules
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-316_en.
htm
>> 
>> and Commissioner Kroes tweet:
>> 
>>
https://twitter.com/NeelieKroesEU/status/321931122
017697792
>> 
>> I guess this doesn't refers to the original Dec
2011 proposal but to a modified version. However I
could not find it.
>> 
>> I would very much appreciate any hints. Thanks
in advance.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Daniel
>> 
>> PS: Of course we are not quite there yet, since
this the proposed amendment still have to pass the
European Parliament.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Daniel Dietrich
>> Open Data evangelist; Open Knowledge Foundation
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