[euopendata] [open-government] Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules

Thu Apr 11 09:23:12 UTC 2013

I put it on slideshare:
http://www.slideshare.net/erikboralv/psi-st08060-en13

Regards,
Erik

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Skickat: den 11 april 2013 11:07
Till: Ton Zijlstra
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Ämne: Re: [open-government] [euopendata] Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules

Hi Erik, Tom, Daniel,

It seems that the document attachment is not available for the list members. Could anybody please resend it and share with everyone else?

Thanks!
CI.
El 11/04/2013 10:41, "Ton Zijlstra" <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com<mailto:ton.zijlstra at gmail.com>> escribió:
Not an in-depth analysis, but this is the gist I get from comparing the document Erik sent and the 2003 Directive:

Neelie Kroes press release states "Create a genuine right to re-use public information, not present in the original 2003 Directive;"
I can't find that in the text that Erik shared. General principle of the directive is unchanged.

No pro-active publishing required, the Directive rests on citizens requesting re-use of data.

Cultural heritage data from musea, libraries and archives now in scope of Directive, though with special status.

Redress mechanisms: shall include impartial review body with the appropriate expertise, such as the national competition authority, the national access to documents authority or the national judicial authority, whose decisions are binding upon the public sector body concerned.

Licensing (unchanged): MS, if they use a license, need to supply standard licenses, and encourage all PSBs to use them. Standard licenses need to be electronically available.

Charging: marginal costing is the new normal (cost of data collection cannot be charged). Existing revenue models that are legally required, as well as the cultural sector are exempted here. Where marginal costing is not used and more is charged, how and why is charged needs to be established beforehand and the cost structure that motivates the charges needs to be made transparent up front.

Formats: open and machine readable formats required where possible and appropriate

Exclusive arrangements: Illegal unless needed for a public interest service (unchanged). Arrangements need to be motivated and reviewed every 3 years. For digitization of cultural heritage material it may be 10 years (new).

I'm intrigued by the statement of Kroes on the 'genuine right to re-use which was not present before'. Will do some more close reading to find what that remark is based on.

Ton

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>> wrote:
Thanks Erik! Has someone already analysed it? Whats in it regarding to our most burning questions: Licensing, pricing and the extension of the directive to include cultural heritage institutions. Is the previously progressive proposal of the commission watered down? I would like to hear what other people find in it.

Daniel

On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:19, Erik Borälv <Erik.Boralv at VINNOVA.se<mailto:Erik.Boralv at VINNOVA.se>> wrote:

> And here it is...
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> Cheers,
> Erik Borälv
> VINNOVA - The Swedish Innovation Agency
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> Did that as well. Asked EC and sent a request to the Dutch representative.
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> best,
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Daniel Dietrich <daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org><mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>>> wrote:
> Hi Katleen,
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> On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:04, Katleen Janssen <Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be<mailto:Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be><mailto:Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be<mailto:Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be>>> wrote:
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>> Hi Daniel,
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>> It may take a while for the official document will appear in the Council's document register. I think the best thing to do is ask the Commission or our national representatives for a copy.
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> This is what I just did. Lets see who gets the answer first :)
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> Daniel
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>> If I understood it correctly, there was already a trialogue going on, so the Parliament's approval in June should in theory only be a formal matter...
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>> Best regards,
>> Katleen
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>> Dear all,
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>> with interest I have read todays press release:
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>> Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-316_en.htm
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>> and Commissioner Kroes tweet:
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>> https://twitter.com/NeelieKroesEU/status/321931122017697792
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>> I guess this doesn't refers to the original Dec 2011 proposal but to a modified version. However I could not find it.
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>> I would very much appreciate any hints. Thanks in advance.
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>> All the best
>> Daniel
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>> PS: Of course we are not quite there yet, since this the proposed amendment still have to pass the European Parliament.
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