[euopendata] [open-government] Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules

Owen Boswarva owen.boswarva at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 18:20:04 UTC 2013


Re the "genuine right to re-use public information, not present in the
original 2003 Directive", I queried this on Twitter.

Neelie Kroes responded as follows: "yes, it contains the presumption that
data must be made open & available & through it's availability the freedom
to re-use it"

     https://twitter.com/owenboswarva/status/322307843539755009

Owen


On 11 April 2013 08:57, Ton Zijlstra <ton.zijlstra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not an in-depth analysis, but this is the gist I get from comparing the
> document Erik sent and the 2003 Directive:
>
> Neelie Kroes press release states "Create a genuine right to re-use
> public information, not present in the original 2003 Directive;"
> I can't find that in the text that Erik shared. General principle of the
> directive is unchanged.
>
>
> No pro-active publishing required, the Directive rests on citizens
> requesting re-use of data.
>
> Cultural heritage data from musea, libraries and archives now in scope of
> Directive, though with special status.
>
> Redress mechanisms: shall include impartial review body with the
> appropriate expertise, such as the national competition authority, the
> national access to documents authority or the national judicial authority,
> whose decisions are binding upon the public sector body concerned.
>
> Licensing (unchanged): MS, if they use a license, need to supply standard
> licenses, and encourage all PSBs to use them. Standard licenses need to be
> electronically available.
>
> Charging: marginal costing is the new normal (cost of data collection
> cannot be charged). Existing revenue models that are legally required, as
> well as the cultural sector are exempted here. Where marginal costing is
> not used and more is charged, how and why is charged needs to be
> established beforehand and the cost structure that motivates the charges
> needs to be made transparent up front.
>
> Formats: open and machine readable formats required where possible and
> appropriate
>
> Exclusive arrangements: Illegal unless needed for a public interest
> service (unchanged). Arrangements need to be motivated and reviewed every 3
> years. For digitization of cultural heritage material it may be 10 years
> (new).
>
> I'm intrigued by the statement of Kroes on the 'genuine right to re-use
> which was not present before'. Will do some more close reading to find what
> that remark is based on.
>
> Ton
>
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Erik! Has someone already analysed it? Whats in it regarding to
>> our most burning questions: Licensing, pricing and the extension of the
>> directive to include cultural heritage institutions. Is the previously
>> progressive proposal of the commission watered down? I would like to hear
>> what other people find in it.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 21:19, Erik Borälv <Erik.Boralv at VINNOVA.se> wrote:
>>
>> > And here it is...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Erik Borälv
>> > VINNOVA - The Swedish Innovation Agency
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Från: euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org [
>> euopendata-bounces at lists.okfn.org] för Ton Zijlstra [
>> ton.zijlstra at gmail.com]
>> > Skickat: den 10 april 2013 18:10
>> > Till: Daniel Dietrich
>> > Kopia: Open Government WG List; EU Open Data Working Group
>> > Ämne: Re: [euopendata] [open-government] Commission welcomes Member
>> States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules
>> >
>> > Did that as well. Asked EC and sent a request to the Dutch
>> representative.
>> >
>> > best,
>> > Ton
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Daniel Dietrich <
>> daniel.dietrich at okfn.org<mailto:daniel.dietrich at okfn.org>> wrote:
>> > Hi Katleen,
>> >
>> > On 10 Apr 2013, at 17:04, Katleen Janssen <
>> Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be<mailto:Katleen.Janssen at law.kuleuven.be>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >>
>> >> It may take a while for the official document will appear in the
>> Council's document register. I think the best thing to do is ask the
>> Commission or our national representatives for a copy.
>> >
>> > This is what I just did. Lets see who gets the answer first :)
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If I understood it correctly, there was already a trialogue going on,
>> so the Parliament's approval in June should in theory only be a formal
>> matter...
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Katleen
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org<mailto:
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>> open-government-bounces at lists.okfn.org<mailto:
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>> >> Sent: woensdag 10 april 2013 17:01
>> >> To: Open Government WG List
>> >> Cc: EU Open Data Working Group
>> >> Subject: [open-government] Commission welcomes Member States'
>> endorsement of EU Open Data rules
>> >>
>> >> Dear all,
>> >>
>> >> with interest I have read todays press release:
>> >>
>> >> Commission welcomes Member States' endorsement of EU Open Data rules
>> http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-316_en.htm
>> >>
>> >> and Commissioner Kroes tweet:
>> >>
>> >> https://twitter.com/NeelieKroesEU/status/321931122017697792
>> >>
>> >> I guess this doesn't refers to the original Dec 2011 proposal but to a
>> modified version. However I could not find it.
>> >>
>> >> I would very much appreciate any hints. Thanks in advance.
>> >>
>> >> All the best
>> >> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> PS: Of course we are not quite there yet, since this the proposed
>> amendment still have to pass the European Parliament.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Dietrich
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