[iRail] The Hub - an idea
Pieter Colpaert
pieter at iRail.be
Mon Aug 13 10:30:19 UTC 2012
Hi Greet,
That's indeed a good remark. We need to find an honest and for
everyone affordable solution. I don't want anyone to be left out
because he or she cannot or doesn't want to pay a certain fee.
Do you see any good (existing) options? Should we try a new model?
Anyone any idea?
Maybe we can make The Hub something that generates a revenue somehow
so we can host our members for free?
Pieter
On 8/13/12, Greet Derudder <greet at pimpajoentje.be> wrote:
> I like the idea, too!
>
> This way I could come do some schoolwork but still stay in touch with iRail
> people and keep up to date with what's going on, which I'd like.
>
> I don't know if you could make a "membership fee" work, for example would
> everyone pay the same if some people used the facilities daily and others
> only once a month, ... But I understand there needs to be money to maintain
> the place of course.
>
> Also great idea to have it somewhere easily accessible by public transport!
>
> Groetjes,
> Greet
> On Aug 12, 2012 11:12 PM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter at irail.be> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sander,
>>
>> On 08/12/2012 10:54 PM, Sander Van der Maelen wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > Pieter: great idea. Gent needs more affordable and low-brow co-working
>> > spaces, and it sounds as if you could make it happen :)
>>
>> Aw. I don't want to call it a co-working space. It's a hub. A hub is
>> where people come together for a while to work and cross pollinate.
>>
>> As we're working together you could indeed call it a co-workingspace,
>> but you could call it a coffee bar as well as you will be able to have
>> coffee there. Or you will be able to call it a hackerspace as people
>> will change the use of already existing things, or you can call it a lab
>> as we're doing professional experiments. Just stick with "hub" - a place
>> where it all comes together for a moment ;)
>>
>>
>> I'm not entirely
>> > sure if it needs to be in the city centre (plenty of cool spots in
>> > Dampoort, Ledeberg, Brugse Poort, etc), but a good connection is
>> > definitely a must.
>>
>> I am. The place I have in mind is either close to Gent Sint Pieters or
>> close to Tram 1. I want public transport to be as good as possible so
>> iRail members from all over Belgium can get there by train.
>>
>> >
>> > Will you be managing the location yourself, or will it be part of
>> > something 'bigger'? Maybe it's worthwile to discuss possible joint
>> > ventures with the Hackerspace Gent?
>>
>> It will be part of something bigger. We might work together with
>> Hackerspace Ghent but if you paid attention during iSoc12 you know we
>> have cooler partners ;)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Pieter
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Sander.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bericht verzonden vanaf mijn gsm. Sorry voor de spel- en typfouten.
>> >
>> > Op 12 aug. 2012 20:13 schreef "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter at irail.be
>> > <mailto:pieter at irail.be>> het volgende:
>> >
>> > Hi Thomas,
>> >
>> > You're welcome to work on both projects of your own (freelance
>> > work)
>> as
>> > projects related to iRail (eg iRail 3.0, PlugID, The DataTank,
>> BeLaws,
>> > etc). The payment would be a subscription I have in mind. See it as
>> > a
>> > membership fee.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Pieter
>> >
>> > On 08/12/2012 07:11 PM, Thomas Tuts wrote:
>> > > Sounds like a cool idea! However, could you clarify these two
>> > things please:
>> > >
>> > > ** How many times per week/month would you come join us to work
>> > on
>> > > your own project in the center of Ghent? *
>> > > By own project, do you mean projects appointed to you by iRail or
>> > actual
>> > > own projects that don't really have anything to do with iRail
>> > (for
>> > > example, I do a lot of freelance webdesign and front-end
>> development,
>> > > would it be okay for me to work on stuff like this?)
>> > >
>> > > * * Would you be willing to pay something in order to make this
>> > > happen? If yes, how much at max? *
>> > > Are we talking about a one-time payment here, or something like a
>> > > monthly "subscription"?
>> > >
>> > > In any case, this definitely sounds really interesting!
>> > >
>> > > Thomas
>> > >
>> > > 2012/8/12 Jan Vansteenlandt <vansteenlandt.jan at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:vansteenlandt.jan at gmail.com>
>> > > <mailto:vansteenlandt.jan at gmail.com
>> > <mailto:vansteenlandt.jan at gmail.com>>>
>> > >
>> > > Hm this is a really cool idea, certainly for the datatank as
>> well.
>> > > Problem is that I wont be in Ghent from september till
>> > January, and
>> > > I'm guessing it wont be in Bruges or near Bruges ;). But
>> depending
>> > > on the expiration date of this location's offer, I'd feel
>> > like
>> > that
>> > > would be a great idea. The different synergies of
>> teams/community
>> > > would certainly florish like it did in iSoc.
>> > >
>> > > So for me personally great idea, but more I don't see myself
>> going
>> > > to Ghent more than a few times a month to code on TDT and do
>> some
>> > > work-shops.
>> > >
>> > > Best regards,
>> > >
>> > > Jan
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Pieter Colpaert
>> > <pieter at irail.be <mailto:pieter at irail.be>
>> > > <mailto:pieter at irail.be <mailto:pieter at irail.be>>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear all,
>> > >
>> > > I believe that, at iRail, we have a very particular mix
>> > of
>> > hackers,
>> > > professionals, free-lancers, students, entrepreneurs...
>> which
>> > > are all
>> > > enthusiastic about creating a better comfort for
>> > day-to-day
>> > > tasks (such
>> > > as of course, daily mobility). Correct me if I'm wrong,
>> but I
>> > > think we
>> > > may call «our community» something unique, and that's
>> > something we
>> > > should cherish.
>> > >
>> > > Since our organisation is a mix between a living lab and
>> > an
>> > > incubator
>> > > for start-up ideas, I got to think we should move our
>> office
>> > > from the
>> > > cloud to somewhere physical. Maybe we should have a real
>> > > location where
>> > > we can meet, do work-shops, help others, work, have
>> meetings,
>> > > volunteer,
>> > > organise iRail Summer of code and so on.
>> > >
>> > > This is an idea that can become reality rather quickly. I
>> even
>> > > have a
>> > > pretty cool opportunity for a location that I will keep
>> > to
>> > > myself until
>> > > I know there is enough interest from you guys and girls.
>> Would
>> > > you be so
>> > > kind to answer these three questions in private/public
>> (your
>> > > choice)?
>> > >
>> > > * How many times per week/month would you come join us
>> > to
>> > work
>> > > on your
>> > > own project in the center of Ghent?
>> > > * Would you attend or organise workshops concerning
>> > > mobility/apps/...?
>> > > * Would you be willing to pay something in order to make
>> this
>> > > happen?
>> > > If yes, how much at max?
>> > >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > >
>> > > Pieter
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