[iRail] Let's move together

Tue Nov 20 19:54:22 UTC 2012

Hi,

Wasn't it decided that the name for iRail was gonna change?
In any case, a merger makes a lot more sense to me too, more than the
rearrangements Pieter proposed in the first mail.

Groetjes,
Greet
On Nov 20, 2012 7:50 PM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter at irail.be> wrote:

> Hi Christophe,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Our communication will be: "iRail is the open
> transport working group at OKFN Belgium". The problem was that iRail was
> not only the geek for geek organisation, but also a lot of different
> things (like Apps For Ghent organiser, iRail Summer of code, creator of
> BeLaws) and some things are better with OKFN than with iRail.
>
> The goal of this merge is to have a better focus for your geek
> organisation ;)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Pieter
>
> On 11/20/2012 07:40 PM, C. Versieux wrote:
> > Merging both organizations seems obviously the best idea.
> >
> > « Eendracht maakt macht »
> >
> > The only negative point for me is the name.
> > I currently iRail a geek for geek organization and I am sure you will
> > prove me I am wrong.
> >
> > Okfn does not reflect at all the objectives... Go in the streets and ask
> > people what they think what the acronym mean, you won't receive a lot of
> > correct answers.
> > IRail was good at this... (The only positive point about this name)
> >
> > But the more important: I am 300% in favor of the merge even if that is
> > in 2 years.
> >
> > On Nov 20, 2012 7:29 PM, "Pieter Colpaert" <pieter at irail.be
> > <mailto:pieter at irail.be>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     We have 2 issues, with 2 organisation that I am part of.
> >
> >     1. iRail
> >
> >     iRail supports digital creativity concerning mobility. We are pretty
> >     good at that, but our name does not reflect this any longer. We
> should
> >     change our name in something that reflects our "open" approach to
> >     current problems (such as mobility, transparency, identity
> management,
> >     business modelling, front-end design and so on).
> >
> >     2. Open Knowledge Foundation (OKFN)
> >
> >     OKFN international is an organisation founded in 2004 which support
> open
> >     knowledge. OKFN Belgium, a local chapter, is an umbrella organisation
> >     for Belgian "open" and "free culture" initiatives. Amongst our
> working
> >     groups we have the organisers of the Apps For X events, we have
> Creative
> >     Commons Belgium and we have currently several possible upcoming
> working
> >     groups, such as: open education(al resources), data journalism and
> >     wikimedia. As another working group, for me, iRail is the open
> transport
> >     working group.
> >
> >     Currently there are a lot of people (not at all "all") of iRail
> involved
> >     in OKFN, and a lot of projects of iRail make more sense under OKFN
> (for
> >     instance: The DataTank, Summer of code, BeLaws, and so on) rather
> than
> >     under an organisation which support digital creativity concerning
> >     mobility.
> >
> >     A very simple solution for iRail and OKFN would be for us to merge.
> This
> >     is currently impossible from a legal perspective as both
> organisations
> >     are active in public tenders at this moment.
> >
> >     One solution would be that from now on, all communication is going
> >     through OKFN. iRail become the "open transport" working group at
> OKFN.
> >     iRail's current people helping at Apps For Ghent become people
> >     volunteering at OKFN, not iRail, and our blog hello.iRail.be
> >     <http://hello.iRail.be> moves to
> >     transport.okfn.be <http://transport.okfn.be>. This also means Miet
> >     will not be working for iRail
> >     anymore, but for the open transport working group at OKFN. In one or
> two
> >     years we will be able to merge both organisation legally.
> >
> >     What is your take on this? Feel free to reply both privately as
> >     publicly.
> >
> >     Kind regards,
> >
> >     Pieter
> >
> >     P.S.: At this moment we are paying for a bookkeeper twice, we have 2
> >     different bylaws, we have 2 different boards. For 2 organisations
> which
> >     have such an extensive synergy, this makes no sense at all.
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