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Terms of Use [1], it seems to qualify for the Open Definition. So I =
think we could add an extra point for the datasets already registered in =
the census for the open license.

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Would you agree? Anyone who knows the language could confirm that?

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[1] http://data.gov.md/conditii-de-utilizare

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Cheers,

Augusto Herrmann

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks; =
I=E2=80=99m copying in Irina Tisacova who is responsible for date.gov.md =
in the e-Government Center of Moldova.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Working =
on the Google Translate version:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>(1) =
there=E2=80=99s a requirement =E2=80=9Cnot [to] distort the meaning of =
the original message or document.=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 This is similar to the =
old misrepresentation provision in the UK-OGL v1, and such a provision =
would probably not accord with the Open Definition.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s =
not clear what the policy intent is =E2=80=93 it may be that they could =
replace this with a =E2=80=9Cno endorsement=E2=80=9D provision which =
would be compliant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>(2) there =
is a reference in the second paragraph that reuse is =E2=80=9Cpermitted =
within the legislation=E2=80=9D according to Google translate.=C2=A0 The =
original is =E2=80=9C=C3=AEn limitele legisla=C8=9Biei =C3=AEn =
vigoare=E2=80=9D and the same phrase is used in the original of the =
fifth bullet, where Google translates as =E2=80=9Cwithin the =
law=E2=80=9D, and in the final paragraph where Google makes it =
=E2=80=9Clegislation in force=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not clear =
whether these references are to specific legislation which establishes =
additional conditions(no reference is given) or whether they are saying =
in effect =E2=80=9Cany lawful use=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 The first could be =
problematical (especially if the legislation could change during the use =
of the data); the second is a common issue, where the Advisory Council =
has taken the view that it should not be the role of the licence to =
enforce the law.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
od-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org =
[mailto:od-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan =
Gray<br><b>Sent:</b> 01 July 2013 07:18<br><b>To:</b> Christian Villum; =
Rufus Pollock; Augusto Herrmann; =
od-discuss at lists.okfn.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [od-discuss] =
[Open-data-census] Moldovan open license<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>(cc'ing =
Open Definition discuss list)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Do you think that this terms of use document from the =
Moldovan government is OpenDefnition =
compliant?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"http://data.gov.md/conditii-de-utilizare" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt'>http://data.gov.md/conditii-de-utilizare</span>=
</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm not sure if we have any Romanian language speakers =
on the list, but hopefully Google Translate should be enough to get the =
basic idea of what it says.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 30 June 2013 07:29, Christian Villum &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:christian.villum at okfn.org" =
target=3D"_blank">christian.villum at okfn.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
Augusto,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks for flagging this! Have we got anyone on the =
list who speaks the language?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Alternatively, there is a Romanian discussion list =
where this question could also be raised:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-ro" =
target=3D"_blank">http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-ro</a><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-Christian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p>--&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p>Christi=
an Villum<o:p></o:p></p><p>Community Manager, Open Government Data =
+&nbsp;Local Groups Network<br>skype: christianvillum &nbsp;| &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.twitter.com/villum" =
target=3D"_blank">@villum</a><br>The<a href=3D"http://okfn.org/" =
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class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Augusto Herrmann =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:augusto.herrmann at gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">augusto.herrmann at gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi!<br><br>From looking at an automated translation of =
the Moldovan's <a href=3D"http://date.gov.md" =
target=3D"_blank">date.gov.md</a> Terms of Use [1], it seems to qualify =
for the Open Definition. So I think we could add an extra point for the =
datasets already registered in the census for the open =
license.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Would you agree? Anyone who knows the language could =
confirm that?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>[1]&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://data.gov.md/conditii-de-utilizare" =
target=3D"_blank">http://data.gov.md/conditii-de-utilizare</a><o:p></o:p>=
</p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Augusto Herrmann<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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