[@OKFNau] Central ckan or other repository for Aus data?

[Pia Waugh]

Hey guys, if data by gov that is then improved (for instance digitised) I
think the data.gov.au team could convince many (but probably not all) data
custodians within gov to publish them on data.gov.au. This would take a
little coordination but is certainly doable. This would make the data
authoritative rather than just available and might encourage those agencies
to publish more of their data in useful formats :)

Where data has no connection to gov at all, the community solution seems
the best path.

Regarding metadata sharing, there are certainly ways to do this. The
data.gov.au team (inc me) was looking to do some type of public open data
update and discussion, probably Feb 21st, the day before International Open
Data Day. So we might try get a blog up about it in the coming month and
it'd be great to talk about the future of gov and non-gov opendata with
everyone.

Cheers,
Pia

/me carefully balances her "data.gov.au", GovHack and hacktivist hats :)

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Steve Bennett <stevage at gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome. So maybe let's flesh out the use cases. What problems does this
> solve?
>
> 1. Data from government but improved by the community
> 2. Data generated outside government, but broadly useful
>
> 3.
> I wonder if we could also use this approach to solve another problem I'm
> starting to notice, which is: Data that belongs together, but is split
> across different levels of government, different jurisdictions, agencies
> etc.
> For example:
> - a health data portal
> - an environmental data portal
> - a bike data portal (eg, data from VicRoads, other states, local
> councils, OpenStreetMap extracts, community generated [subjective] data)...
>
> IMHO, it will be easier to encourage reuse of data if we can point people
> to "healthdata.org.au" rather than "there's some stuff on data.vic.gov.au,
> some on data.gov.au, also check out the council websites of X, Y and
> Z...".
>
> (If this is too tangential, please ignore. :))
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Hugh Stephens <
> hugh at dialogueconsulting.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Long time listener, first time call/emailer. Just dropping in to say that
>> if people are really keen to have an AU community-specific CKAN
>> installation I'm happy to auspice/support it...I luckily carry quite a bit
>> of Amazon credit for their Sydney endpoint, as well as Softlayer's
>> Melbourne facility so we'd actually get a choice of datacentre....or
>> potentially it could even be something an AU host like Serversaurus might
>> actually give a comp cluster to use.
>>
>> Obviously that's more effort than datahub.io – but just wanted to put my
>> hand in the ring for technical assistance and/or server credits if it is
>> something that people are interested in.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> --
>> *Hugh Stephens*
>> *Director*
>> Dialogue Consulting
>>
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>> *e*: hugh at dialogueconsulting.com.au
>> *m*: 0431 304 464
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Pia Waugh <pia.waugh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Nick, I only just saw this email sorry. Too many I have :) But it
>>> sounds like you've converted something that is already available publicly
>>> just not in a data format, so there is a small possibility we might be able
>>> to convince the data custodian of the original data to publish your
>>> converts. Please email data.gov at finance.gov.au and we will look into
>>> it.
>>>
>>> PS - regarding who can publish on data.gov.au, it is a government data
>>> portal, so it has government data :) Publishers are generally government
>>> data custodians. I know of a few portals for community data but Open
>>> Australia seems the most likely group for open data relating to democracy
>>> and parliament in Australia IMHO. Those guys rock.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pia
>>> On 21/12/2013 10:09 AM, "Nick Evershed" <nick.evershed at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been doing a fair bit of work recently to convert federal
>>>> politician expense PDFs into nice, machine-readable formats. I was wanting
>>>> to make the data more accessible, so was wondering what the best way might
>>>> be to do this. Can you submit data to data.gov.au if you're not
>>>> actually in a government department? Is there a similar central respository
>>>> for aus data? If not, are there any plans for one?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Nick E.
>>>>
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