[@OKau] Basecamp for an OKAU Community and Communications Team

Wed Apr 1 06:06:17 UTC 2015

I understand but don't agree (I'm not in vigorous disagreement btw, just
trying to stay on target and get some things done quickly and effectively).

http://opendefinition.org/

This relates to openness of knowledge, not half cast ideas and desperate
attempts to get people together to try and help each other get stuff done.

Alarm bells are cool, but in this case I really think its a false alarm.
Anyone can jump in and help collaborate, just please ask for an invite :).
But yes it is true that it is not Trello and anonymous access isn't a
feature.

How about a compromise for the next week. We use Basecamp until Wednesday
for those who have time to jump in and lend a hand. After that I'm happy to
distill things into Trello cards and port everything there for open access.

Sound cool? Would you like an invite?

Cheers,
Steven

*STEVEN DE COSTA *|
*EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR*www.linkdigital.com.au

On 1 April 2015 at 15:50, Cobi Alison Smith <cobi.smith at unimelb.edu.au>
wrote:

>  I strongly back Paul's point about using Trello instead of Basecamp, so
> boards can be publicly visible and open, consistent with the principles of
> openness.
>
>  I don't think that openness is an optional "maybe later" for this kind
> of organisation.
>
>  It rings alarm bells to me that the rationale for this includes using
> tactics and messages to stakeholders that can't be communicated publicly.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* okfn-au [okfn-au-bounces at lists.okfn.org] on behalf of Steven De
> Costa [steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 April 2015 3:33 PM
> *To:* Open Knowledge discussion list for Australia.
> *Subject:* Re: [@OKau] Basecamp for an OKAU Community and Communications
> Team
>
>   No major reason. The theory is great for Trello but I've based the
> decision to go with Basecamp on the following points:
>
>    1. I've personally seen Basecamp work really well for GovHack
>    2. I've seen some groupthink and apathy creep into entirely open
>    project management platforms where it becomes easy for focus and momentum
>    to dissipate into ideas, discussion and much less action.
>    3. I like to be very open with big ideas and specific details - I find
>    that it is very difficult to communicate the detail when it concerns either
>    private contact info, tactics on how to message ideas to stakeholders or
>    when balancing the needs commercial-in-confidence stakeholder relationships.
>
> I use Trello within the CKAN Association steering group and don't see any
> major advantage between the two platforms.
>
>  I'd be more than happy to setup Trello at a later date and let the
> momentum of those doing stuff shuffle from one to the other. However, right
> now I have a job to do and just want to get stuck into it while I can :)
>
>  We have a long weekend ahead of us and that means people might have some
> time to invest in blog posts, copywriting or just joining in with
> discussions on actionable/deliverable stuff for OKAU.
>
>  Do you want me to invite you into the basecamp?
>
>  Oh - I should also mention that where there is something specific being
> developed then yeah, we'll certainly need wider collaboration but could
> easily do that with publicly editable google docs. Linking those into this
> list with specific context on the type of effort we are trying to pull
> together would be the method methinks :)
>
>  Cheers,
> Steven
>
>
>      *STEVEN DE COSTA *|
> *EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR *www.linkdigital.com.au
>
>
>
> On 1 April 2015 at 15:02, Paul Walsh <paulywalsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry to stir the pot, but why Basecamp instead of Trello, in which
>> boards can be publicly visible and open, which promotes wider
>> collaboration?
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 1 Apr 2015, at 06:24, Steven De Costa <
>> steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>    For those who didn't follow the Board discussion yesterday, or who
>> haven't caught up, or who just want a quick summary on one point...
>>
>>  I had an action to setup a basecamp project to help with the
>> coordiantion of website updates.
>>
>>  I have now set this up and invited a few people in from the Board and a
>> few others I know will be interested (datakid and maxious).
>>
>>  It would be great to also have all local and topic ambassadors involved
>> in the basecamp experience. It would double plus also be great to have
>> advisers involved. And, as always it would be exceptionally cool to have
>> any others with the energy, drive and interest to put themselves forward
>> for joining in.
>>
>>  Please send me a direct email - steven.decosta at linkdigital.com.au if
>> you'd like an invite.
>>
>>  Please note: The intention is not to have a closed group, nor to
>> deteriorate the cohesion and great conversations going on through this list
>> or other mediums. Its just to help get things done for OKAU with a little
>> more coordination and support via a platform that is setup to do such a
>> thing.
>>
>>  btw - The video link for that Board discussion, as a reminder, is here:
>> http://au.okfn.org/2015/03/31/board-meeting-31-march-2015/
>>
>>  Rocks!
>>
>>  PS - I'll drop this in as a comment on that post for people to discover
>> the info there too. The email addy will be removed and replaced with a
>> request to ping @okfnau via twitter.
>>
>>
>>      *STEVEN DE COSTA *|
>> *EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR *www.linkdigital.com.au
>>
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