[@OKFNau] Examples of Use of Commercial Government Data

Wed Mar 18 15:54:03 UTC 2015

You folks are cool :) great discussion going on here.

After being in Kiev and spending a lot of time with Government officials
there I now realize just how lucky we are in Australia. Ukraine has 1,200
government services and of those only two are currently delivered via a
digital medium.

There is zero bureaucratic latitude to do anything outside the law so every
process change starts with a change to legislation.

Having said that I still hold to the belief that eGovernment is inevitable
and open data that is generated by transparently operated digital
government services is the 'killer app' for today's democracy.

I expect the Federal Digital Transformation Office will help create a wave
of change through all levels of Australian Government and digital
bureaucrats will become the norm in all agencies.

Going 'native' now has a new meaning.

Hoots!

On Wednesday, March 18, 2015, Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Lachlan,
>
> In my frustrated moments, I think that about the whole world, not just
> government :). I think it's amazing when anyone manages to find a way to be
> successful through openness, and it's the way of the future. If only we
> could get there :)
>
> You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...
>
> -T
>
> On 16 March 2015 at 15:02, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','datakid at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I deserve that rebuke and I think Pia makes a good point. But it's
>> also true that from *outside* government, it can be hard to be
>> anything but cynical, and I am not often seeing that change of
>> attitude that you claim - as someone bubbling with impatience on the
>> outside, I see feet draggers and excuse makers. I think that different
>> levels of government (Fed, State, Local) probably have different
>> opinions and different levels of commitment as well. I know I should
>> be differentiating between them, but in reality, I just see a wall of
>> Government.
>>
>> Good to see the discussion take off ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>> L.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------
>> The totalitarian society envisioned by George Orwell in 1984 should
>> have arrived by now. The electronic gadgets are here. The government
>> is here, ready to do what Orwell anticipated. So the power exists, the
>> motive, and the electronic hardware. But these mean nothing, because,
>> progressively more and more so, no one is listening. The new youth
>> that I see is too stupid to read, too restless and bored to watch, too
>> preoccupied to remember. The collective voice of the authorities is
>> wasted on him; he rebels. But rebels not out of theoretical,
>> ideological considerations, only out of what might be called pure
>> selfishness. Plus a careless lack of regard for the dread consequences
>> the authorities promise him if he fails to obey. He cannot be bribed
>> because what he wants he can build, steal, or in some curious,
>> intricate way acquire for himself. He cannot be intimidated because on
>> the streets and in his home he has seen and participated in so much
>> violence that it fails to cow him. He merely gets out of its way when
>> it threatens, or, if he can't escape, he fights back. When the locked
>> police van comes to carry him off to the concentration camp the guards
>> will discover that while loading the van they have failed to note that
>> another equally hopeless juvenile has slashed the tires. The van is
>> out of commission. And while the tires are being replaced, the other
>> youth siphons out all the gas from the gas tank for his souped-up
>> Chevrolet Impala and has sped off long ago.
>> ----
>> The Android and the Human, Philip K. Dick
>> sourced from
>> http://boingboing.net/2015/03/10/philip-k-dicks-androids-blu.html
>>
>>
>> On 15 March 2015 at 11:22, Pia Waugh <pia.waugh at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pia.waugh at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Just a quick one:
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Lachlan Musicman <datakid at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','datakid at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Government officials. I cannot express how grateful I am that there are
>> >> people in this organisation who can talk pretty because I just want to
>> break
>> >> their kneecaps and push them into puddles with a sneer.
>> >
>> >
>> > It'd be really cool if people could remember that "government
>> officials" are
>> > not a faceless enemy. There are a lot of us working in government to
>> improve
>> > things, and comments like this certainly don't help. If you make it a
>> > "you're either with us or agin us" then you make it very hard to
>> > collaborate, educate or change the status quo. Personally I'm finding
>> > attitudes are changing within Australian governments (fed,
>> state/territory
>> > and local) quite rapidly and I'm cautiously optimistic things will
>> continue
>> > to get better. Meanwhile, I guess we'll start issuing knee protectors as
>> > standard issue across the public service ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Pia
>> >
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> --
> --------------------------------------------------
> Tennessee Leeuwenburg
> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
> "Don't believe everything you think"
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