[okfn-br] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

Nurunnaby Hasive nh em nhasive.com
Domingo Setembro 21 06:15:49 UTC 2014


Hi All,
+1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect.. :)

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Yamila García <yamilagarcia em gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi all!
> +1 Internacional is ok!
> Regards!
> El 20/09/2014 18:59, "Denis Parfenov" <denis.parfenov em openknowledge.ie>
> escribió:
>
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect ;-)
>>
>> On 20 September 2014 22:08, alberto abella <alberto.abella em okfn.es>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  +1 OK international
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Ira
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom em okfn.org.br>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Naomi and all,
>>>
>>>
>>>   these observations are good. I like best the idea of *Open Knowledge
>>> Internation* (*OKInternational*) instead. Already used this name in an
>>> e-mail I just sent in another conversation. I'll use OKInternational, but
>>> sure will listen to other ideas to come until we find a consensus. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>   P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other planets, I
>>> suggest change to Open Knowledge Universal, if there isn't one already or
>>> planets where we don't need to open up knowledge created by these exotic
>>> aliens.
>>>
>>>
>>>   P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São Paulo, at
>>> the Clock Square it is written "In the universe of culture the center
>>> is everywhere
>>> <http://obasculante.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/foto-reloj-usp.jpg>",
>>> said by Miguel <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>Reale
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>. I'd say the same for the
>>> commons of knowledge. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>   Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>   2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>.
>>> <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>lillie <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>@
>>> <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>okfn <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>.org
>>> <naomi.lillie em okfn.org>>:
>>>
>>>   Hi Tom & all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global'
>>> implies we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of
>>> collective or overall representative of all the individual Chapters, Local
>>> Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and individuals. As you
>>> know, this may not always be appropriate - different groups have different
>>> aims and methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
>>> write a thought-leadership blog on successful lobbying, that could damage
>>> the reputation of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic
>>> or subversive. 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive
>>> administrative hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of the
>>> role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
>>> undertake.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge
>>> (if there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't
>>> dictate what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating
>>> out from a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre'; 'global'
>>> allows for a more amorphous cloud of multiple communication streams, and
>>> less hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the
>>> impression that the most usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet -
>>> London, Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the
>>> case of London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is
>>> no established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same
>>> as 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to address this
>>> misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    There are examples of other organisations and communities being
>>> called 'international' - for example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
>>> International - perhaps people involved in those groups could share
>>> information about what the 'international' there implies and means in
>>> practise, and we could see whether that model fits with what we all are or
>>> hope to be?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you
>>> think and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working Group
>>> leaders - here looping in on CC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio em sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>    +1
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh em nhasive.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      +1
>>>
>>>
>>>      On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert <
>>> pieter.colpaert em okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>       Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock" <
>>> rufus.pollock em okfn.org>:
>>>
>>>
>>>        Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central" by
>>> accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and support
>>> rather than direction).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than
>>> "Central" I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        Rufus
>>>
>>>
>>>        On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
>>> tom em okfn.org.br> wrote:
>>>
>>>        Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>         I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a center.
>>> Thus I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central of Open
>>> Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard to work in this
>>> way.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Tom
>>>
>>>
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