[Okfn-ca] Fwd: [CivicAccess-discuss] PRISM

Tue Jun 25 23:42:52 UTC 2013

Bonjour,
Voici un fil de discussion sur l'affaire PRISM-NSA qui a été initié par 
Ted Strauss
http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/2013-June/017606.html

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Sujet: 	Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] PRISM
Date : 	Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:20:09 -0400
De : 	Diane Mercier <diane.mercier at gmail.com>
Répondre à : 	diane.mercier at gmail.com
Pour : 	civicaccess discuss <civicaccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca>
Copie à : 	Karl Dubost <karl at la-grange.net>

+1 Karl

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1802.
Je relie Michael Polanyi (1942) La logique de la liberté.

Diane

Le 2013-06-25 15:07, Karl Dubost a écrit :
> Agreed with Tracey,
>
> Tracey P. Lauriault [2013-06-25T13:09]:
>> So, how do we, with ease, address surveillance, social media data mining, open data, open access (publishing), archiving, open government, transparency, democratic deliberation and evidence based decision making?
> Just for reframing a bit, PRISM is not new. There's a whole lexicon of terms for the surveillance society.  Search for
>
> * Echelon
> * Magic Lantern
> * Minaret
> * Shamrock
> * Stellar Wind
> * Thinthread
> * Trailblazer
> * Turbulence
> * etc. etc. etc.
>
> This doesn't remove the interesting events of these last few days.
>
> Any kind of open data, in the wrong context, can be harmful at a point. Take a massive statistics about some disease and you are able to decipher the spread of a virus and its origin, investigate and possibly find a remedy for it. But you can also use that for deciphering business schemes, isolating some countries because you consider a threat to your own country, or targeting individuals with their insurance policy. Data are used, will be used in many ways. The capabilities of network and computing help quickly to determine their usage (good and bad). Good and bad here are also highly dependent on the ethics and moralistic contexts of the persons, groups using these data.
>
> So I don't think we can say that "Open data is bad" or "Open data is good". But it has definitely consequences. It's where I believe into the civil society (contrat social included), we decide together of the laws (aka the silos, the shelter) in which we want to operate with this data.
>
> What we (massive number of people) are currently realizing is that the data can be easily abused in the context of the legal silos/shelters which have been built. The state becoming rogue, destroying the trust, and operating in a context of borders (let's target foreigners, when data do not have borders). This needs to be modified. It also means in some circumstances we will need to modify our behavior, such as encryption of personal data (or if you prefer a portable camouflage for some data). Think about it a simple paper letter is becoming more inaccessible than… a mail. We need digital envelops. In the past it was the glue or the wax seal. :)
>
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