[okfn-discuss] Open Service Definition (revisited)

Luis Villa luis at tieguy.org
Thu Aug 23 17:58:13 UTC 2007


On 8/23/07, Mike Linksvayer <ml at creativecommons.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 17:28 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> > On 8/21/07, Mike Linksvayer <ml at creativecommons.org> wrote:
> > > > An open service definition, I believe, should seek to
> > > > define systems which meaningfully/practically transfer control back
> > > > from service providers to users, not merely give them access to source
> > > > and data.
> > >
> > > Presumably that means user controlled/transferable names.
> >
> > names->identity, really.
> >
> > Which is hard, but I've started talking a bit to some identity folks,
>
> AFAICT the identity folks are not focused on the part that would
> transfer power back to users -- delegable service addresses.  The
> technology required is ancient -- owning your own domain -- and often
> used to transparently and relatively costlessly move between low level
> service providers (eg email).
>
> > and it isn't undoable- openid-like systems (or more appropriately,
> > email-like systems which allow forwarding and delegation of identity)
>
> OpenID and the like are fine, but marginally relevant.  I'm far more
> interested in being able to tell the world where I want them to access
> "my" service (eg imagine images.mike.com, powered by flickr) than being
> able to tell my service provider how to tell who I am.

OpenID allows you to specify service providers, so, for example, if
you know that I am http://tieguy.org/, you can query that to see where
my images are hosted. This allows me to do the kind of thing you're
talking about.

Luis




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