[okfn-discuss] Disqus and permission culture on OKFn sites

Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton.alvarenga at okfn.org
Mon Jan 14 11:55:27 UTC 2013


Hi all,

after seeing the comment bellow about a blog post on the central OKFn
blog and asked myself why not anwering the the blog comments section,
I wondered some things:

1) Do the comments made using discuss are free/open content? Have
someone checked that? Sorry, I don't have time to read the terms of
service <http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/466260-terms-of-service>
now.

2) If this content is free, do we keep a back up of them on OKFn
servers? Imagine the case the company that maintain Disqus closes.

By the way, most OKFn site don't make explicit they use an open
license (I have added explcititly on OKFn Brasil site), as I pointed
out a few months ago
<http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-help/2012-November/002097.html>.
This only perpatuates the permission culture
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permission_culture>.

Best,

Tom

2013/1/14 Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org>:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 04:06:58PM +0000, Kat Braybrooke wrote:
>> For those interested in learning more about the open data ecosystem from a
>> French perspective, a bit of interesting reading has been featured on the
>> OKFN Blog today from Simon Chignard, author of *L’Open data: Comprendre
>> l’ouverture des données publiques. *
>> *
>> *
>> In this post, Chignard discusses linkages between the open data movement
>> and philosophies of the Commons in France, and proposes four different
>> scenarios for the defence of common goods.
>>
>> http://blog.okfn.org/2013/01/10/4-ideas-for-defending-the-open-data-commons/
>
> I slightly tripped at point 4. (Charging users of the API for frequent
> use). Point 1 of the Open Definition: The work shall be available as a
> whole and at no more than a reasonable reproduction cost
>
> Reproduction costs in APIs is minimal (how much does a GET request cost?) -
> Further we don't have micropayment systems that do transmit that little
> money for free. What remains is selling requests in bulk and rate limiting
> APIs.
>
> To me this puts a risk on app developers: If their (free) app becomes
> popular - they are suddenly confronted with having to pay for using an API.
> So I'd rather not go down that route.
>
> Michael
>
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