[okfn-discuss] new brand, new website: coming up next week

Jorge Machado machado at usp.br
Wed Apr 16 19:40:14 UTC 2014

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best regards

Em 16-04-2014 10:37, Samuel Goëta escreveu:
> Hi everyone, 
> I was less connected for the last few days and I am quite astonished
<https://twitter.com/samgoeta/status/456409840726704129> by the new
identity. I share most concerns already expressed so I will be short,
it's difficult to follow.
> I would like to share a less-addressed concern about the new okfn.org
<http://okfn.org>. Could we just agree first on the identity and then
launch a new website? Also the new okfn.org <http://okfn.org> does not
mean much if we don't know the whole OKF strategy which is I believe
currently drafted.
> To me, the new okfn.org <http://okfn.org> (besides already what was
already expressed on identity):
> - does not explain *what Open Knowledge actually is*! Stating the
summarized open definition on the homepage would be a good thing.
> - *emphasizes* too much on *services* offered by OKF Central
> - does not present any of our *projects* (what we do is part of what
we are): CKAN, School of Data, Public Domain Review, Open Spending, Open
Definition, Open Data Index, Textus? I could not find them on the new
> - is actually quite good in the last section to *explain the benefits*
of open knowledge
> - misses *action calls* besides just signing up to the newsletter
> Can we discuss about the website issue at the next community call?
> Thanks
> Best
> Sam
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Aaron Wolf <wolftune at gmail.com
<mailto:wolftune at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Rob Myers <rob at robmyers.org
<mailto:rob at robmyers.org>> wrote:
>         "sharing" is
>         rapidly becoming a synonym for renting
>     I don't know this to be true at all. Just because some people are
abusing the term doesn't mean that much. Most of your critique is just
negative discounting of my proposal. I don't really care whether *my*
proposal is used, but "change the world" is as vacuous and overused as
anything out there, and the effect of "Data" on changing the world could
be as negative as it is positive depending upon what the data is and who
controls it. It is imperative that it be clear *what direction* we are
proposing that the change go.
>     "See How Data Can Change The World" is *too* focused, that's the
point all along. Less focused is the goal here. We want the focus to be
about empowering the world's citizens, not about Big Data controlling
us, we want the focus to be broader, not about venerating Data as the
primary or only focus of Openness.
>     Big Data is a reality today whether we like it or not. The OKF
needn't exist just to promote data itself. The point has to be about
promoting specifically Open data over restricted data controlled by
governments and corporations. The point of "Open Knowledge" overall is
for that same Openness to be applied to many things. The Openness and
empowerment of people is the goal, whether we apply the values of
openness to data or to art or to educational resources etc.
>     If the OKF is to be strictly a data-focused organization, it
should become the Open Data Foundation, and people who don't care about
data as much can just be tangential supporters. There is a big decision
here about focus, and it appears that when questioned nobody is
suggesting that it really become the Open Data Foundation, although that
honestly could be a reasonable direction for various reasons. But it
either should embrace that or work to be inclusive of other areas.
Either you focus or you don't. Don't pretend to be inclusive but
actually neglect areas outside of a certain focus.
>     I see no problem with including the word "free" in things that
refer to Open. I'm not insisting on it either, but I completely reject
the idea that inclusion of other terms is inherently problematic.
>     --
>     Aaron Wolf
>     wolftune.com <http://wolftune.com/>
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