[okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

Wed Sep 17 13:55:10 UTC 2014

Dear all,
I would suggest Open Knowledge Mordor;

- since everyone knows that the Ring Wraiths and Orcs all act anarchically
and will pillage for their own gain. But everyone also knows that there is
a center from where all the evil flows, in this case, ehm, Cambridge ;)

Will leave it with all of you to make further direct LOTR character
comparisons.

-Christian

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:26:07 -0300
> From: Vitor Baptista <vitor at vitorbaptista.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I don't have strong opinions on either name, both are fine to me. I would
> just like to point out that networks do have centers (for some definition
> of centrality). The center on OKCentral doesn't necessarily mean "command
> center", but it can be the center where all started from, or the center as
> where we all meet, etc.
>
> I agree with Naomi that OKGlobal sound like we speak for all groups, but I
> think OKCentral has the same problem (maybe even more). All in all, I
> sightly prefer OKGlobal or OKInternational.
>
> Cheers,
>
> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi.lillie at okfn.org>:
>
> > Hi Tom & all,
> >
> > Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
> >
> > To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global'
> implies
> > we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of collective or
> > overall representative of all the individual Chapters, Local Groups,
> > Working Groups and other community groups and individuals. As you know,
> > this may not always be appropriate - different groups have different aims
> > and methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
> write a
> > thought-leadership blog on successful lobbying, that could damage the
> > reputation of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic or
> > subversive. 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive
> > administrative hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of
> the
> > role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
> > undertake.
> >
> > On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge (if
> > there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't dictate
> > what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating out
> from
> > a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre'; 'global' allows
> > for a more amorphous cloud of multiple communication streams, and less
> > hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the
> impression
> > that the most usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet - London,
> > Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the case
> of
> > London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is no
> > established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same
> as
> > 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to address this
> > misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
> >
> > There are examples of other organisations and communities being called
> > 'international' - for example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
> > International - perhaps people involved in those groups could share
> > information about what the 'international' there implies and means in
> > practise, and we could see whether that model fits with what we all are
> or
> > hope to be?
> >
> > I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you think
> > and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working Group
> leaders -
> > here looping in on CC.
> >
> > Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
> >
> > Naomi (speaking for myself only)
> >
> >
> > On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>  +1
> >>
> >>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh at nhasive.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  +1
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert <
> >> pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org
> >:
> >>>
> >>>  Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central" by
> >>>> accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and
> support
> >>>> rather than direction).
> >>>>
> >>>>  If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than "Central"
> >>>> I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>  Rufus
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <
> tom at okfn.org.br>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>   Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a center. Thus
> >>>>> I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central of Open
> >>>>> Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard to work
> in this
> >>>>> way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Thoughts?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  Tom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom)
> >>>>> Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre
> >>>>> http://br.okfn.org
> >>>>>
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