[okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

Thu Sep 18 16:27:26 UTC 2014

I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)

Ira

On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom at okfn.org.br>
wrote:

> Naomi and all,
>
> these observations are good. I like best the idea of *Open Knowledge
> Internation* (*OKInternational*) instead. Already used this name in an
> e-mail I just sent in another conversation. I'll use OKInternational, but
> sure will listen to other ideas to come until we find a consensus. :)
>
> P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in other planets, I suggest
> change to Open Knowledge Universal, if there isn't one already or planets
> where we don't need to open up knowledge created by these exotic aliens.
>
> P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University of São Paulo, at the
> Clock Square it is written "In the universe of culture the center is
> everywhere
> <http://obasculante.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/foto-reloj-usp.jpg>",
> said by Miguel Reale <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>. I'd
> say the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
>
> Tom
>
> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi.lillie at okfn.org>:
>
>> Hi Tom & all,
>>
>> Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about this.
>>
>> To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open Knowledge Global'
>> implies we would then speak for all the global groups, as a sort of
>> collective or overall representative of all the individual Chapters, Local
>> Groups, Working Groups and other community groups and individuals. As you
>> know, this may not always be appropriate - different groups have different
>> aims and methods, and - for example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
>> write a thought-leadership blog on successful lobbying, that could damage
>> the reputation of groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as anarchic
>> or subversive. 'Central' seems more representative of a supportive
>> administrative hub, which I would say is closer to my understanding of the
>> role the non-profit organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
>> undertake.
>>
>> On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre' of Open Knowledge (if
>> there is, I want the key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't dictate
>> what groups do or say, the lines of communication aren't radiating out from
>> a centre, the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre'; 'global' allows
>> for a more amorphous cloud of multiple communication streams, and less
>> hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has sometimes given the impression
>> that the most usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet - London,
>> Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its 'capital' or office. in the case of
>> London and Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that there is no
>> established Local Group, and many people assume 'OKCentral' is the same as
>> 'OK-UK' or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to address this
>> misconception and/or help us move away from this habit.
>>
>> There are examples of other organisations and communities being called
>> 'international' - for example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
>> International - perhaps people involved in those groups could share
>> information about what the 'international' there implies and means in
>> practise, and we could see whether that model fits with what we all are or
>> hope to be?
>>
>> I would love to hear more from people on this list about what you think
>> and/or have experienced, as well as Local Group and Working Group leaders -
>> here looping in on CC.
>>
>> Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>>
>> Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>>
>>
>> On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano <julio at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>  +1
>>>
>>>  On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby Hasive <nh at nhasive.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  +1
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter Colpaert <
>>> pieter.colpaert at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus Pollock" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Very good suggestion Tom - we sort of fell into the "Central" by
>>>>> accident (btw it was always intended to convey coordination and support
>>>>> rather than direction).
>>>>>
>>>>>  If others were happy with the "Global" moniker rather than "Central"
>>>>> I think this would make perfect sense as a change.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Rufus
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <tom at okfn.org.br
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I believe for we work as a network, we shouldn't have a center. Thus
>>>>>> I'd like to suggest henceforth to call Open Knowledge Central of Open
>>>>>> Knowledge Global (OKCentral -> OKGlobal). And we work hard to work in this
>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Tom
>>>>>>
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