[okfn-help] [euopendata] [psi-workers] Rules + website for Open Data Challenge

[Daniel Dietrich]

Dear all,

Besides all arguments about using open source technology....

On 24.03.2011, at 13:26, Federico Morando wrote:
> What needs to the open are the public data (in input), not necessarily the code/data of the re-users ("derived data")...

I agree that what we needs to be open is the data! But I have a strong opinion that this should NOT be limited to the "data input". As a reference please see the article from Jonathan

"Keeping Open Government Data Open?"
http://blog.okfn.org/2011/03/01/keeping-open-government-data-open/

One very important issue on our way towards a flowering "Open Data Landscape" is that we keep Open Data 'open'. As a principle we should call for apps, to be:

Open in, open out – If you pull open data into your website or system, then others should be able to pull it out as open data as well.

Regards
Daniel

On 24.03.2011, at 13:26, Federico Morando wrote:

> On 03/24/2011 01:08 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>> Some key ideas for rules:
>> 
>> * Pan-European angle is strongly encouraged
> I surely agree. We may even say that you should use data from at least 2 member states and/or that your app shoul make sense in at least two member states (e.g. in London and Paris).
>> * Entries for apps must come from team which contains groups/individuals from at least 2 EU member states
> I don't think that this is necessary: let's put constraints on the apps/data (as you did above and below) and not on the institution/organization/group that proposes them... It's a call for apps, not a EU project ;-)
>> * Repurposed apps are allowed (i.e. an app that exists for London can be expanded to work for Paris + Torino and entered)
> OK, sure!
>> * Apps must be open source
>> * Core data must be freely reusable and derived data must be openly licensed
> I'm not entirely sure: we may say that this is a plus in the evaluation, but is it a requirement? What needs to the open are the public data (in input), not necessarily the code/data of the re-users ("derived data")... [Personally, I'm sympathetic with this rule - in particular the part about open source code: it's just that I think it deserves an explicit and open discussion.]
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> 
> Federico
> 
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