[okfn-help] Fwd: Trying to sort out Science sections on okfn.org

[Rufus Pollock]

Some interesting and useful feedback from a member of the Science
working group ...

Rufus

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert Muetzelfeldt
Date: 30 March 2011 16:18
Subject: Trying to sort out Science sections on okfn.org


Hi Jenny,

I'm still to get back to you with an idea for a project.

As I mentioned before, I found it confusing to know how the various
sections relating to science relate to each other on the okfn.org web
site.  I've now spent some time going around the site, and made the
following very rough notes on my experience - more bullet points than
anything else, but if I don't send them now they probably won't get
sent.

As you can see, it is a bit of a mess (at least, for this
outsider...), and I think it would be a really good idea if someone
could sit down and try to rationalise it all.   Maybe this is already
happening, but if not, I think it should.

Part of the problem is simply a lack of linking between different
parts - I found myself going back the next day and not being able to
find a bit of the site that I had looked at the previous day!   It
would certainly help if there were more linking and nav sections, but
I think it needs more than that - for each group, some sort of clear
statement as to the roles of the wiki, the main web site, and the
WordPress group, and how they relate to each other.

I have only looked at the Science grouping, but I guess the same
issues might apply in other areas.

I'm just going to paste in my notes as they are.   If they are too
terse, get back to me and I'll expand.

I'm cc'ing this to Rufus, for the only reason that he helped me get
registered with WordPress.

Hope this is of some help.  I realise that it may be difficult to step
back, take the wider view, and invest time in sorting things out when
this is essentially (completely?) a volunteer effort, but I don't
think it would take much to make it a lot better.

Cheers,
Robert

OKF vs OKFN?

Open Science vs Open Science Data (aka Open Data in Science) - *not
the same thing*, but the terms seem to be used interchangeably.
And sometimes it's just 'Science' rather than 'Open Science'....

http://wiki.okfn.org/FrontPage
Wiki Home
But note that clicking on the Groups links takes you to
http://okfn.org/wg/, the Groups listing on the main web site, *not*
the wiki, even though Groups have pages on the wiki.

http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/science
Working Group on Open Data in Science
NOT LINKED to http://science.okfn.org/!

http://wiki.okfn.org/OpenScience
OpenScience - note: appears not to be a WG)
Why is this separate from wg/science? - seem to use much of the same language.

http://science.okfn.org/
Open Science Working Group
Not linked to http://wiki.okfn.org/wg/science!
Linked to http://okfn.org/groups/science/ (i.e. WordPress Science
group), but only hidden in a blog posting.
The home page for this group is just workin group reports, with no
blurb about the group, links etc.

http://okfn.org/groups/science/
Wordpress site for Science (note: not 'Open Science' or 'Open Data in
Science' group.
Does not link to either main web page for the group, or the wiki page.


Clicking on 'FindPage' in the wiki takes you to an empty page.