[Okfn-irl] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal

Charalampos Bratsas charalampos.bratsas at okfn.org
Mon Sep 22 08:27:38 UTC 2014


hi all,
+1 OKI :)
Best!



???? 21/9/2014 9:15 ??, ?/? Nurunnaby Hasive ??????:
> Hi All,
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect.. :)
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Yamila García <yamilagarcia at gmail.com 
> <mailto:yamilagarcia at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all!
>     +1 Internacional is ok!
>     Regards!
>
>     El 20/09/2014 18:59, "Denis Parfenov"
>     <denis.parfenov at openknowledge.ie
>     <mailto:denis.parfenov at openknowledge.ie>> escribió:
>
>         +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect ;-)
>
>         On 20 September 2014 22:08, alberto abella
>         <alberto.abella at okfn.es <mailto:alberto.abella at okfn.es>> wrote:
>
>             +1 OK international
>
>
>             On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
>>             I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :) 
>>
>>
>>             Ira 
>>
>>             On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
>>             <tom at okfn.org.br <mailto:tom at okfn.org.br>> wrote: 
>>
>>                 Naomi and all,
>>
>>
>>                 these observations are good. I like best the idea of
>>                 *Open Knowledge Internation* (*OKInternational*)
>>                 instead. Already used this name in an e-mail I just
>>                 sent in another conversation. I'll use
>>                 OKInternational, but sure will listen to other ideas
>>                 to come until we find a consensus. :)
>>
>>
>>                 P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in
>>                 other planets, I suggest change to Open Knowledge
>>                 Universal, if there isn't one already or planets
>>                 where we don't need to open up knowledge created by
>>                 these exotic aliens.
>>
>>
>>                 P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University
>>                 of São Paulo, at the Clock Square it is written "In
>>                 the universe of culture the center is everywhere
>>                 <http://obasculante.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/foto-reloj-usp.jpg>",
>>                 said by Miguel
>>                 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>Reale
>>                 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>. I'd say
>>                 the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
>>
>>
>>                 Tom 
>>
>>
>>                 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>.
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>lillie
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>@
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>okfn
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>.org
>>                 <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>>: 
>>
>>                     Hi Tom & all, 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about
>>                     this. 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open
>>                     Knowledge Global' implies we would then speak for
>>                     all the global groups, as a sort of collective or
>>                     overall representative of all the individual
>>                     Chapters, Local Groups, Working Groups and other
>>                     community groups and individuals. As you know,
>>                     this may not always be appropriate - different
>>                     groups have different aims and methods, and - for
>>                     example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
>>                     write a thought-leadership blog on successful
>>                     lobbying, that could damage the reputation of
>>                     groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as
>>                     anarchic or subversive. 'Central' seems more
>>                     representative of a supportive administrative
>>                     hub, which I would say is closer to my
>>                     understanding of the role the non-profit
>>                     organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
>>                     undertake. 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre'
>>                     of Open Knowledge (if there is, I want the
>>                     key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't
>>                     dictate what groups do or say, the lines of
>>                     communication aren't radiating out from a centre,
>>                     the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre';
>>                     'global' allows for a more amorphous cloud of
>>                     multiple communication streams, and less
>>                     hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has
>>                     sometimes given the impression that the most
>>                     usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet -
>>                     London, Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its
>>                     'capital' or office. in the case of London and
>>                     Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that
>>                     there is no established Local Group, and many
>>                     people assume 'OKCentral' is the same as 'OK-UK'
>>                     or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to
>>                     address this misconception and/or help us move
>>                     away from this habit. 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     There are examples of other organisations and
>>                     communities being called 'international' - for
>>                     example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
>>                     International - perhaps people involved in those
>>                     groups could share information about what the
>>                     'international' there implies and means in
>>                     practise, and we could see whether that model
>>                     fits with what we all are or hope to be? 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     I would love to hear more from people on this
>>                     list about what you think and/or have
>>                     experienced, as well as Local Group and Working
>>                     Group leaders - here looping in on CC. 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion! 
>>
>>
>>
>>                     Naomi (speaking for myself only) 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                     On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano
>>                     <julio at sfsu.edu <mailto:julio at sfsu.edu>> wrote: 
>>
>>                         +1 
>>
>>
>>                         On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby
>>                         Hasive <nh at nhasive.com
>>                         <mailto:nh at nhasive.com>> wrote: 
>>
>>
>>>                         +1
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter
>>>                         Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org
>>>                         <mailto:pieter.colpaert at okfn.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                             +1
>>>
>>>                             Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus
>>>                             Pollock" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org
>>>                             <mailto:rufus.pollock at okfn.org>>: 
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 Very good suggestion Tom - we sort
>>>                                 of fell into the "Central" by
>>>                                 accident (btw it was always intended
>>>                                 to convey coordination and support
>>>                                 rather than direction). 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 If others were happy with the
>>>                                 "Global" moniker rather than
>>>                                 "Central" I think this would make
>>>                                 perfect sense as a change. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 Regards, 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 Rufus 
>>>
>>>
>>>                                 On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton
>>>                                 Zanella Alvarenga <tom at okfn.org.br
>>>                                 <mailto:tom at okfn.org.br>> wrote: 
>>>
>>>                                     Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>                                     I believe for we work as a
>>>                                     network, we shouldn't have a
>>>                                     center. Thus I'd like to suggest
>>>                                     henceforth to call Open
>>>                                     Knowledge Central of Open
>>>                                     Knowledge Global (OKCentral ->
>>>                                     OKGlobal). And we work hard to
>>>                                     work in this way.
>>>
>>>
>>>                                     Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>                                     Tom 
>>>
>>>
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