[Okfn-irl] [OKFN-Local-Coord] [okfn-discuss] Suggestion: OKCentral henceforth be called OKGlobal
Charalampos Bratsas
charalampos.bratsas at okfn.org
Mon Sep 22 08:27:38 UTC 2014
hi all,
+1 OKI :)
Best!
???? 21/9/2014 9:15 ??, ?/? Nurunnaby Hasive ??????:
> Hi All,
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect.. :)
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Yamila García <yamilagarcia at gmail.com
> <mailto:yamilagarcia at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> +1 Internacional is ok!
> Regards!
>
> El 20/09/2014 18:59, "Denis Parfenov"
> <denis.parfenov at openknowledge.ie
> <mailto:denis.parfenov at openknowledge.ie>> escribió:
>
> +1 for OK International. OKI for short - perfect ;-)
>
> On 20 September 2014 22:08, alberto abella
> <alberto.abella at okfn.es <mailto:alberto.abella at okfn.es>> wrote:
>
> +1 OK international
>
>
> On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 17:27 +0100, Irina Bolychevsky wrote:
>> I'm +1 on OKInternational and it can be OKI for short :)
>>
>>
>> Ira
>>
>> On 17 September 2014 20:15, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
>> <tom at okfn.org.br <mailto:tom at okfn.org.br>> wrote:
>>
>> Naomi and all,
>>
>>
>> these observations are good. I like best the idea of
>> *Open Knowledge Internation* (*OKInternational*)
>> instead. Already used this name in an e-mail I just
>> sent in another conversation. I'll use
>> OKInternational, but sure will listen to other ideas
>> to come until we find a consensus. :)
>>
>>
>> P. S. If someday we discover intelligent life in
>> other planets, I suggest change to Open Knowledge
>> Universal, if there isn't one already or planets
>> where we don't need to open up knowledge created by
>> these exotic aliens.
>>
>>
>> P. P. S. At the university I've studied, University
>> of São Paulo, at the Clock Square it is written "In
>> the universe of culture the center is everywhere
>> <http://obasculante.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/foto-reloj-usp.jpg>",
>> said by Miguel
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>Reale
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Reale>. I'd say
>> the same for the commons of knowledge. :)
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-17 9:58 GMT-03:00 Naomi Lillie <naomi
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>.
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>lillie
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>@
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>okfn
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>.org
>> <mailto:naomi.lillie at okfn.org>>:
>>
>> Hi Tom & all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting! Personally, I am in two minds about
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>> To me, calling the non-profit organisation 'Open
>> Knowledge Global' implies we would then speak for
>> all the global groups, as a sort of collective or
>> overall representative of all the individual
>> Chapters, Local Groups, Working Groups and other
>> community groups and individuals. As you know,
>> this may not always be appropriate - different
>> groups have different aims and methods, and - for
>> example - if 'Open Knowledge Global' were to
>> write a thought-leadership blog on successful
>> lobbying, that could damage the reputation of
>> groups in areas where lobbying is perceived as
>> anarchic or subversive. 'Central' seems more
>> representative of a supportive administrative
>> hub, which I would say is closer to my
>> understanding of the role the non-profit
>> organisation currently undertakes, or seeks to
>> undertake.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, I agree there isn't a 'centre'
>> of Open Knowledge (if there is, I want the
>> key!!). The non-profit organisation doesn't
>> dictate what groups do or say, the lines of
>> communication aren't radiating out from a centre,
>> the groups aren't gathered 'around the centre';
>> 'global' allows for a more amorphous cloud of
>> multiple communication streams, and less
>> hierarchy. Also being called 'OKCentral' has
>> sometimes given the impression that the most
>> usual geographic location for OKCentral to meet -
>> London, Berlin or Cambridge - is therefore its
>> 'capital' or office. in the case of London and
>> Cambridge, this is exacerbated by the fact that
>> there is no established Local Group, and many
>> people assume 'OKCentral' is the same as 'OK-UK'
>> or 'OK-England'. 'Global' may go some way to
>> address this misconception and/or help us move
>> away from this habit.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are examples of other organisations and
>> communities being called 'international' - for
>> example Amnesty International and Greenpeace
>> International - perhaps people involved in those
>> groups could share information about what the
>> 'international' there implies and means in
>> practise, and we could see whether that model
>> fits with what we all are or hope to be?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would love to hear more from people on this
>> list about what you think and/or have
>> experienced, as well as Local Group and Working
>> Group leaders - here looping in on CC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tom for the thought-provoking suggestion!
>>
>>
>>
>> Naomi (speaking for myself only)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 September 2014 16:02, Julio Feliciano
>> <julio at sfsu.edu <mailto:julio at sfsu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Nurunnaby
>> Hasive <nh at nhasive.com
>> <mailto:nh at nhasive.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Pieter
>>> Colpaert <pieter.colpaert at okfn.org
>>> <mailto:pieter.colpaert at okfn.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Op 15 sep. 2014 13:18 schreef "Rufus
>>> Pollock" <rufus.pollock at okfn.org
>>> <mailto:rufus.pollock at okfn.org>>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Very good suggestion Tom - we sort
>>> of fell into the "Central" by
>>> accident (btw it was always intended
>>> to convey coordination and support
>>> rather than direction).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If others were happy with the
>>> "Global" moniker rather than
>>> "Central" I think this would make
>>> perfect sense as a change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rufus
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 September 2014 16:12, Everton
>>> Zanella Alvarenga <tom at okfn.org.br
>>> <mailto:tom at okfn.org.br>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe for we work as a
>>> network, we shouldn't have a
>>> center. Thus I'd like to suggest
>>> henceforth to call Open
>>> Knowledge Central of Open
>>> Knowledge Global (OKCentral ->
>>> OKGlobal). And we work hard to
>>> work in this way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
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