[okfn-labs] Nomenklatura - frequent 500s

Mon Oct 27 13:00:58 UTC 2014

Thanks for those thoughts, Michael! I hear you on needing a simple aliasing service - we’ll make sure that will always be given! 

It’s interesting you’re bringing up RDF, because I was actually pondering if this may be a use case for the stuff. Not just because identity and URIs is what it’s all about, but because for some time the data will be small enough to run in-memory… so you don’t need any of the triple monsters.

- Fr. 

> On 26 Oct 2014, at 14:39, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
> 
> Friedrich,
> 
> I totally feel the lack of orientation there. And I do think mapping names
> to unique identifiers or establishing unique names for things is a
> gargantuan task. 
> 
> That said: You often need a way to map aliases to one thing (we do have one
> dataset that needs this kind of cleaning regularily) and the original
> Nomenklatura supported this quite well. 
> 
> On Context: This is right now done by specifying the dataset. But of course
> could be done in other ways (e.g. specifying rdf:type for queries).
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:55:11AM +0200, Friedrich Lindenberg wrote:
>> I’m somewhat undecided how to proceed with the project. Both of them should work, but obviously it’s desirable to only have one service operating at the same time. At this point, grano can do most of what opennames can do, modulo some bits of user interface - so I might just replace both of them with a public install of grano. In any case, we’ll need a migration path and opennames should be good to use for now. 
>> 
>> At the same time, the naive approach to identity mapping this does is very limited and I feel like we need to do more clever things in the future: matching on multiple attributes, within contexts, giving likelihoods rather than making it a fixed mapping. 
>> 
>> Who’s got ideas on that?
>> 
>> - Friedrich 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Oct 2014, at 09:48, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is it correct to assume opennnames.de is more reliable and maintained?
>>> 
>>> Mihi
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 09:28:59AM +0200, Friedrich Lindenberg wrote:
>>>> Ok, so this one is running on hydrogen (s110.okserver.org), which has a "funny SLA” (it’s up when it’s up). 
>>>> 
>>>> @Nigel: do you think I could make things a bit more stable by dockerizing stuff? Seems like docker is already running there. 
>>>> 
>>>> - Friedrich 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 18:21, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Friedrich,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 03:01:46PM +0200, Friedrich Lindenberg wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Michael, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m very sorry you’ve had some trouble using nomenklatura. Just for clarification: there’s two nomenklaturas running at the moment, version 1 is underhttp://nomenklatura.okfnlabs.org (generously hosted by OKF), version 2 underhttp://opennames.org (still stuck on my server). Which one is (more) sick?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wasn't aware of opennames.org - used the okfnlabs.org one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Friedrich 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10 Oct 2014, at 07:00, Michael Bauer <michael.bauer at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've tried to use Nomenklatura in the past days and discovered some things:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The website seems to randomly shoot 500s every few requests.
>>>>>>> The lookup API seems not to be implemented anymore (at least calls to it
>>>>>>> return not implemented).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can we at least get the 500s fixed somehow? Where is it hosted at the
>>>>>>> moment?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 
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