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Wed Aug 29 10:23:01 UTC 2012
'rationing of publication and corresponding damage to the UK
research base' as resources for OA publishing are tight and likely to
become tighter.
'UK scholarship will risk becoming provincialised' and our
universities will be pushed down international rankings=92 - this
doesn't seem to be based on concrete evidence or forecasting, but
rather on the observation that European and North American publishing
systems are not as far down the OA route as the UK (might they not
become the provincial ones?!), and
HSS 'Journal articles tend to be substantially longer and to
have longer half-lives' than natural sciences, so need a different
publishing model.
They wrote this news item in response to the government's acceptance
of recommendations in the Finch Report 'Accessibility, sustainability,
excellence: how to expand access to research publications': This link
will take you to the Finch Report page - scroll down for some spirited
and innovative views on how more could be done to bring OA into
academic publishing: http://www.researchinfonet.org/publish/finch/
Hope this helps anyone interested!
Hannah
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> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:11:01 +0100
> From: Emanuil Tolev <emanuil.tolev at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] [Open-access] Ross Mounce (Panton Fellow)
> on BBC about Open Access
> To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list
> <okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>
> Cc: Ross Mounce <ross.mounce at gmail.com>, Mike Taylor
> <mike at indexdata.com>
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> On 3 October 2012 08:27, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > I'd be interested in hearing more about humanities research and open
> >> access if anyone on these lists is involved in these areas. I got the
> >> impression from talking with some of those concerned afterwards that
> >> humanities academics are very drawn to *paper* copies of journals, and=
this
> >> thus increases the cost of publishing for them.
> >>
> >
> > Yes - if you want to contunue with the ways of the past it costs more
> > money.
> >
> >>
> >> Paper journals are irrelevant to me and my research - they are 20th
> >> century reminders of how research used to be distributed. All I need i=
s
> >> research distributed via the internet to be read on computers, tablets=
,
> >> phones, and other devices and hence I feel the cost of publishing rese=
arch
> >> need only be very small. I suspect the difference of opinion encounter=
ed
> >> was based around this.
> >>
> >>
> > And the disconnection of cost from value. This is something that perhap=
s
> > we should try to identify and formalize. Thus eveyrone can *read* physi=
cs
> > in the archive. It then "has to be" published in paper. Why? (a) to pro=
vide
> > a formal record - but a national library could do that for a fraction o=
f
> > the costs and (b) to give a formal label/score of approval. That's the =
main
> > problem.
> >
>
> I wonder if there aren't any further .. emotional (or sentimental, if you
> will) reasons for this attitude we ascribe to Humanities researchers. Wha=
t
> if they just like reading from a paper and feel that their research has a
> special connection to that medium?
>
>
> > PS Since I didn't get to mention it on air: it's Open Access Week soon!
> >> 22-28 October: http://www.openaccessweek.org/ Help celebrate & rais=
e
> >> awareness of OA!
> >
> > Yes - but what actually is it? what are we meant to do? Last time I tri=
ed
> > to contribute and got essentially zero feedback. Is it just a PR exerci=
se
> > for the mainstream OA community.
> >
> > I do not get a feeling of Openness in the same way as I do for other Op=
en
> > events.
> >
> >>
> >> Looks like Document Freedom Day or similar things. As in, it's not an
> *event*, it's whatever the community makes it. (And "the community" =3D
> whoever knows about this week and has the knowledge and inclination to
> create an event in their environment.)
>
> Greetings,
> Emanuil
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> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 11:31:54 +0100
> From: "Dan Scott" <dan.scott at socialsciencesdirectory.com>
> Subject: [okfn-discuss] Hearing more about humanities research and
> open access
> To: "'Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list'"
> <okfn-discuss at lists.okfn.org>, <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
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> Dear Peter
>
>
>
> In answer to your question, I worked in subscription publishing and becam=
e
> so infuriated with its iniquities that I set out to provide an alternativ=
e,
> as outlined below.
>
>
>
> On September 24th, the first issue of Social Sciences Directory
> <http://socialsciencesdirectory.com/index.php/socscidir/index> was
> published and it will be followed shortly by Humanities Directory
> <http://humanitiesdirectory.com/index.php/humanitiesdirectory/index> . Th=
ese
> are new multi-disciplinary publications, which aim to revolutionise
> scholarly publishing by providing quality, affordable content without the
> barrier of subscription paywalls. Our approach is modern and progressive,
> whilst adhering to recognised publishing standards. I am writing to ask i=
f
> you will help us to disseminate information by passing on details to your
> members, and by doing so benefiting the faculty, researchers, students an=
d
> librarians of your membership?s institutions by increasing the reach and
> speed of their research output. We would also be delighted to talk to you=
r
> association or society directly about possible publishing partnerships.
>
>
>
> We aim to
>
> ? capture the best of international research across the disciplin=
es
> of social sciences and arts & humanities
>
> ? conduct peer-review and publish papers in online formats
>
> ? facilitate discussion and information sharing through discussio=
n
> platforms
>
> ? augment research content with valuable additional reading
> materials such as dissertations, reviews, presentations and reports
>
>
>
> Our first issue contains papers on
>
> ? Successful transition to retirement in Australia
> <http://socialsciencesdirectory.com/index.php/socscidir/article/view/19>
>
> ? Knowledge, attitude and belief of pregnant women towards safe
> motherhood in a rural Indian setting
> <http://socialsciencesdirectory.com/index.php/socscidir/article/view/23>
>
> ? Gender equality in the workplace: the perceptive reality
> <http://socialsciencesdirectory.com/index.php/socscidir/article/view/24>
>
>
>
> Our philosophy is that research in one field can also have applications i=
n
> areas of research beyond that intended and the inter-disciplinary nature =
of
> a large collection of work ? spanning the boundaries of subject and state=
-
> will help to cross-fertilise ideas. Open access publishing provides
> significant benefits for authors and readers alike in speeding up the tim=
e
> to publication and dissemination, author copyright retention and providin=
g
> value-for-money for taxpayers. We aim to publish a regular schedule of
> research going forwards.
>
>
>
> We recognise the difficulty in moving from traditional journal publishing=
to
> new forms. You want to be able to trust that the publication maintains
> quality standards and maximises dissemination of your department?s work. =
We
> also firmly believe that Social Sciences Directory addresses many of the
> flaws within the scholarly publishing industry and can provide better lev=
els
> of service. Submissions have been received from the UK, Australia, France=
,
> Brazil, Ethiopia, India and Kenya, whilst editors and reviewers from all
> over the world have offered their services, demonstrating an appetite and
> widespread support for the initiative. We hope that you will support our
> cause, will encourage your members to consider us when choosing where to
> publish and, if possible, mention Social Sciences Directory and Humanitie=
s
> Directory on your website.
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Dan Scott MA, BA (Hons)
>
> Director
>
> Social Sciences Directory Limited
>
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>
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> <http://www.humanitiesdirectory.com> www.humanitiesdirectory.com
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> READ IT. WRITE IT. CITE IT.
>
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> Dan Scott will be a speaker at the Munin open access conference
> <http://www.ub.uit.no/baser/ocs/index.php/Munin/MC7/schedConf/program> a=
t
> the University of Troms?, Norway (21-23 November 2012).
>
> <http://socialsciencesdirectory.com/index.php/socscidir/article/view/33>
> Call for papers.
>
> Press release
> <http://socialsciencesblog.co.uk/index.php/2012/09/23/press-release-poach=
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> From: okfn-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org
> [mailto:okfn-discuss-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Emanuil Tolev
> Sent: 04 October 2012 11:11
> To: Open Knowledge Foundation discussion list
> Cc: Ross Mounce; Mike Taylor
> Subject: Re: [okfn-discuss] [Open-access] Ross Mounce (Panton Fellow) on =
BBC
> about Open Access
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 October 2012 08:27, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in hearing more about humanities research and open acce=
ss
> if anyone on these lists is involved in these areas. I got the impression
> from talking with some of those concerned afterwards that humanities
> academics are very drawn to *paper* copies of journals, and this thus
> increases the cost of publishing for them.
>
>
> Yes - if you want to contunue with the ways of the past it costs more mon=
ey.
>
>
>
>
> Paper journals are irrelevant to me and my research - they are 20th centu=
ry
> reminders of how research used to be distributed. All I need is research
> distributed via the internet to be read on computers, tablets, phones, an=
d
> other devices and hence I feel the cost of publishing research need only =
be
> very small. I suspect the difference of opinion encountered was based aro=
und
> this.
>
>
>
>
>
> And the disconnection of cost from value. This is something that perhaps =
we
> should try to identify and formalize. Thus eveyrone can *read* physics in
> the archive. It then "has to be" published in paper. Why? (a) to provide =
a
> formal record - but a national library could do that for a fraction of th=
e
> costs and (b) to give a formal label/score of approval. That's the main
> problem.
>
>
>
> I wonder if there aren't any further .. emotional (or sentimental, if you
> will) reasons for this attitude we ascribe to Humanities researchers. Wha=
t
> if they just like reading from a paper and feel that their research has a
> special connection to that medium?
>
>
>
> PS Since I didn't get to mention it on air: it's Open Access Week soon!
> 22-28 October: http://www.openaccessweek.org/ Help celebrate & raise
> awareness of OA!
>
> Yes - but what actually is it? what are we meant to do? Last time I tried=
to
> contribute and got essentially zero feedback. Is it just a PR exercise fo=
r
> the mainstream OA community.
>
> I do not get a feeling of Openness in the same way as I do for other Open
> events.
>
>
>
> Looks like Document Freedom Day or similar things. As in, it's not an
> *event*, it's whatever the community makes it. (And "the community" =3D
> whoever knows about this week and has the knowledge and inclination to
> create an event in their environment.)
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Emanuil
>
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