[Open-access] Letter to publishers - URGENT

Mon Mar 5 09:59:54 UTC 2012

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Mark MacGillivray <mark at cottagelabs.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:36 AM, cameronneylon.net <cn at cameronneylon.net>
> wrote:
> > Agree this looks good and is a strong approach. You might also want to
> ask Rebecca Lawrence at F1000 and also Mark Hahnel at Figshare for "new"
> publishers.
>
> Also agreed, and another potential "new" publisher might be brian hole
> / ubiquity press.
>
> I have very limited time today so if people suggest new publishers *I*
can't manage it. Indeed I would prefer others on the list to help me
anyway. The main thing is a clear mail to publishers..

P.

> Mark
>
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> >
> > I don't know if this is useful but I threw this together in another
> context. It was intended as a quick draft "principles for research data
> mining"
> >
> > * Always link back to the version of record of the research output you
> have mined.
> > * Include elements and snippets by reference, not by value. Restrict
> content replication to that reasonably allowed by Fair Use provisions or
> enabled by licences, and required for efficient services
> > * Only redistribute content where copyright terms explicitly allow it
> > * Deposit results in a public database or provide a public service API
> under appropriate terms for other researchers to use and benefit
> > * Respect API service limits where posted and develop polite tooling
> with exponential back-off where appropriate
> > * When providing a commercial service that depends on other's data or
> services, expect to pay a reasonable charge for service levels agreements
> and reasonable expenses
> >
> > In case its not clear this was focussed on content issues not on data,
> but something explicit could be added saying "data is not content". Perhaps
> the "include elements and snippets…" section needs a bit of work as well in
> this context
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
> > On 5 Mar 2012, at 09:15, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:
> >> That all looks good to me.  Only one nit to pick: the statement "facts
> >> are not copyright" is an apples-to-elephants comparison.  We should
> >> say something like "facts are not SUBJECT TO copyright".
> >>
> >> Good point
> >>
> >> No doubt many of the replies you receive will attempt to finesse the
> >> issue by saying things that (they feel) fall short of an actual "no",
> >> such as "we except that the amount should be limited".  We should not
> >> ignore such detail, but clearly we mustn't allow it to blur the clear
> >> picture that we want to present.  So my suggestion is that we present
> >> the results of this survey as a list of YES and NO in bold; but then
> >> include an annex with the detailed statements.
> >>
> >> Yes - we allow a box for publishers to add material if they wish but it
> is the YES/NO that counts
> >>
> >> Finally, I don't know which publishers you plan to contact, but please
> >> be sure to include some YESses, such as PLoS, as well as the Elseviers
> >> and Springers.  Otherwise if we end up with a document that is just
> >> NO, NO, NO all the way down, we risk making it seem as though the
> >> publishing industry has a united front supporting a reasonable
> >> position, and we are unreasonable for wanting/expecting it to be
> >> different.  Instead, we want to draw lines between the publishers that
> >> co-operate and those that don't.
> >>
> >> Yes. I intend the following 10
> >> PLoS, BMC, Science (contact needed), Nature, Wiley, Elsevier, Springer,
> STM Publishers assoc, Roy Soc Chem, Am Chem Soc.
> >>
> >> The latter two are representative of "pure society" publishers.
> >>
> >> -- Mike.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Murray-Rust
> >> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> >> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> >> University of Cambridge
> >> CB2 1EW, UK
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-- 
Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
CB2 1EW, UK
+44-1223-763069
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