[Open-access] A publisher writes...

Mon Mar 12 13:53:09 UTC 2012

Hi Mike

But the communication says 

"Unfortunately any other reply than YES by 2012-03-15 will be regarded as unacceptable for the purposes of Hargreaves."

Which is all about a specific stance, isn't it? The only data is whether we agree with a request to mine, yes or no, and is put in the context of showing Hargreaves the benefits of mining. So as an information gathering exercise on policy I'm not sure it'll work.

In other news, there was a CCC meeting on Data and Text Mining in Amsterdam last week, and a draft cross-publisher mining license has been prepared for discussion with the pharma people; there's also a working group on a common text mining format. 

Best wishes

Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sauropoda at gmail.com [mailto:sauropoda at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Mike Taylor
> Sent: 08 March 2012 10:15
> To: Richard Kidd
> Cc: open-access at lists.okfn.org
> Subject: Re: [Open-access] A publisher writes...
> 
> Hi, Richard.
> 
> The point of Peter's submission is not really to argue for any
> specific stance, but just to document what publishers' stances
> actually ARE.  It's an attempt to get publishers to be open about what
> their policies are -- something that one would think they can hardly
> object to -- so that we know where we stand, what further negotiations
> might be profitable, and whether other recommendations should be made
> elsewhere.
> 
> In short: it's a data-gathering exercise, not an argument.
> 
> -- Mike.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 March 2012 09:59, Richard Kidd <KiddR at rsc.org> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm just wondering whaat you're trying to achieve here. Your're
> preparing a submission from representatives on this list. As Peter said
> in reply to my question on his blog, this is your submission to
> Hargreaves, its not a negotiation. Publishers will also be putting
> forward their own nuanced submissions. This group also doesn't include
> other major text mining experts, so I would also ask that this should
> be presented as an OKFN or similar submission rather than the agreed
> text miners' bottom line - so I'm not convinced that I want to reply to
> this, to have yes/no/unhelpful reflected up to IPO as our views, when
> we'll be putting in our own submissions.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Richard
> >
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