[Open-access] Fwd: My Comments on ICAR's Open Access Policy

Fri May 17 10:27:49 UTC 2013

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Sridhar Gutam <gutam2000 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> It had made its two journals Open Access but there was no Policy...
>
> So, we thought 'NC' is good to start with and assure that it is
> 'Safe'. Otherwise, most of its publications are 'All Rights Reserved'.
>
> No - it's a common and very dangerous mistake to assume CC-NC is "good" or
first step. It has no merits in Open Knowledge. And it is very difficult to
get rid of once it's established

We would surely suggest for CC -BY.
>
>
Yes - please do so positively.

> Thanks
> Sridhar
>
> __________________________________________________________
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> Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) Central Institute for Subtropical
> Horticulture
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>
> On 17 May 2013 15:17, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:
> > Agreed. It is CRUCIAL to get rid of NC, otherwise:
> > * the policy does not describe "open access" as originally defined
> > * materials released under the NC licence can't be used in Wikipedia
> > * neither can they be used in leading OA journals such as BMC, PLOS,
> > eLife and PeerJ
> >
> > Heather Piwowar said it best: "we do research not just to KNOW more
> > but to DO more". In general, NC clauses prevent much of the doing even
> > when they allow the knowing.
> >
> > Although in principle I see the value of the SA clause, it too is
> > problematic for practical reasons. Most importantly, it's not
> > acceptable downstream by pure CC By venues like BMC, PLOS, eLife and
> > PeerJ, because the SA bit is viral and infects whatever the material
> > is incorporated into.
> >
> > The correct licence for open access is CC By. This conclusion has been
> > reach repeatedly by many excellent organisations that have looked into
> > it.
> >
> > -- Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 May 2013 10:33, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> Please please get rid of CC-NC. Its bad effects have been widely
> discussed
> >> on this list.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Sridhar Gutam <gutam2000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Colleagues and Friends,
> >>>
> >>> I am attaching herewith this email my comments on the ICAR's Open
> >>> Access Policy Draft 2013. Kindly go through them and suggest your
> >>> inputs.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks & Regards
> >>> Sridhar
> >>> __________________________________________________________
> >>> Sridhar Gutam PhD, ARS, Patent Laws (NALSAR), IP & Biotech. (WIPO)
> >>> Senior Scientist (Plant Physiology) Central Institute for Subtropical
> >>> Horticulture
> >>> Joint Secretary, Agricultural Research Service Scientists' Forum
> >>> Convenor, Open Access India
> >>> Country Representative, YPARD
> >>> Rehmankhera, Kakori Post
> >>> Lucknow 226101, Uttar Pradesh, India
> >>> Phone: +91-522-2841022/23/24; Fax: +91-522-2841025
> >>> Mobile:+91-9005760036/8005346136
> >>> Publications: http://works.bepress.com/sridhar_gutam/
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peter Murray-Rust
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Peter Murray-Rust
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University of Cambridge
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