[Open-access] [GOAL] Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest "FIRST" Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

Mon Nov 18 16:51:13 UTC 2013

Indeed Heather, in Belgium, we are now achieving total compatibility between universities IRs as well as with the FRS-FNRS (the major Research Funder). Authors have to file in their papers only once. However, if absolutely needed, various formattings can be provided by the software.

I should stress again that after the rough (and tedious) starting period, benefits have become so obvious to researchers that the mandate has become much less necessary: we have entered a bottom-up phase now, generating a huge support for ORBi. Researchers consider it a precious tool today, rather than a chore.

> Le 18 nov. 2013 à 17:07, Heather Morrison <Heather.Morrison at uottawa.ca> a écrit :
> 
> Rentier makes some good points here. May I add that if deposit in the IR becomes THE way to report to the tenure and promotion committee and funding agencies, this could actually save researchers a lot of time? Currently we do need to report our publications, often to multiple venues with different formatting requirements. I think time comparison studies (current vs Liege style) would be a good investment of time.
> 
> [Disclosure: I am an academic with a personal and professional interest in spending fewer evenings and weekends reformatting my CV and more time getting on with research].
> 
> Best,
> 
> Heather Morrison
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2013, at 1:59 AM, "brentier at ulg.ac.be" <brentier at ulg.ac.be> wrote:
>> 
>> Libraries are definitely places where awareness occurs. They are the sentinels. However, they don't have enough power (generally) to impose Open Access as a permanent reflex with researchers. 
>> The only way researchers can be convinced is through mandatory pressure from the funders and/or the Academic authorities. And the only way mandates can be imposed is through the research assessment procedures. Everything else lingers or fails. 
>> (82% compliance with incitative mandates instead of 8% on average with 'soft' mandates).
>> If the pressure is applied through Green OA mandates, academic freedom is fully respected. All it takes is 5 minutes (max) extra work for each new publication (usually not a daily task).
>> Considering the benefits for the author(s), the mandate soon becomes accessory. 
>> 
>>>> Le 17 nov. 2013 à 23:11, Bjoern Brembs <b.brembs at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, November 15, 2013, 1:09:13 AM, you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The political approach may be necessary to get OA
>>>> enacted, but we need to implement OA in such a way that it
>>>> is immune from political influence. In my book, that seems
>>>> to be a perfect role for libraries.
>>> 
>>> This is a serious problem with mandates: they are liable to political influence - and billions in $$$ pay for plenty of political influence, way more than we can ever dream of having.
>>> 
>>> I thus support Eric's motion: we need to move everything in-house, away from any political influence. Libraries are the natural place for that.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Bjoern
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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