[Open-access] [open-science] CC-BY

Wed Sep 4 08:24:41 UTC 2013

Thanks for this. A very nice example, and just imagine this in a world were the clients are also the producers, like in science... let's be proud of plagiarism in an open scientific world!
Laurent

Le 3 sept. 2013 à 20:09, Eric F. Van de Velde a écrit :

> For those enamored with copyright licenses, the following TEDx talk is a refreshing departure. Some industries manage quite well without copyright protection. It's worth a listen...
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> http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html
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> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Klaus Graf <klausgraf at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I cannot see the NSA context of CC-BY, sorry.
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> There was no copyright in the middle ages and a lot of fruitful plagiarism. May I remember to my thoughts at
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> http://jlsc-pub.org/jlsc/vol1/iss1/5/
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> CC-BY-ND blocks translations and other derivative works.
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> CC-BY-NC blocks scholarly use in commercial context e.g. use in the most (commercial) e-journals.
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> Klaus Graf
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> 2013/9/3 Heather Morrison <Heather.Morrison at uottawa.ca>
> This argument appears to reflect a position of technological determinism which I reject - the idea that we are helpless to do anything but adapt to advancing technology. The key problem with this argument is that it is we humans that create the technology, and we have the ability to shape it.
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> Another example of this kind of argument that people are thankfully beginning to question, is the idea that now that we have the internet it is ridiculous to think that there is any notion of privacy and the accompanying idea that society both can and does accept this.
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> Snowden's revelations of NSA surveillance are such a good illustration of the dangers of this loss of privacy that people are beginning to take notice and say that yes, we do want privacy in the online environment. Humans are not helpless with respect to this technology; we created it, and we can shape it future.
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> This perspective is essential to the work of advocates for open access, open science, a free and open internet. We work for this (I think) because we perceive this as a desirable potential of the internet, and we do not believe that this potential will be achieved by sitting back and watching the technology unfold, but rather because we think action is both necessary and desirable.
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> If you're interested in the social shaping of technology, you might want to read some of Andrew Feenberg, e.g. Questioning Technology or Transforming Technology.
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> ~ my two bits ~ thoughts?
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> Heather Morrison
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> On 2013-09-03, at 10:48 AM, Luke Winslow wrote:
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> > This kind of thing has been happening for a while. It is a natural consequence of open licenses. Wikipedia has been re-packaged and sold many times. While I can't find an example, popular open source software has fallen prey from time to time, being repackaged and sold to uninformed consumers who don't realize there are cost-free versions available.
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> > I would argue this new world requires more of the consumer. Be savvy. Do a little google research. There's no going back to simpler times, the complexity is here to stay.
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> > -Luke
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> > On 2013-09-03 9:08 AM, Klaus Graf wrote:
> >> http://blogs.ubc.ca/chendricks/2013/08/31/troubling-open-access-cc-by/
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> >> Thoughts?
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> >> Klaus Graf
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