[Open-access] [open-science] Elsevier: some facts, by Tim Gowers

S.C. Edmunds scott at gigasciencejournal.com
Fri Apr 25 02:34:01 UTC 2014


I also find the comparisons between US and UK data from Zen
Faulkes<http://neurodojo.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/cost-of-elsevier-journals-by-university.html>interesting.
As publishers see Europe and North America as stagnant
markets, a comparison with a country in their growing and still developing
markets such as Asia would be an insightful contrast. Here in Hong Kong we
have a number of top-500 ranked universities (particularly HKU, CUHK and
HKUST), plus "Code on Access to Information" legislation in effect (a
pre-1997 legacy) that Guy Freeman (cc'd) has been using to put together an
opengov.hk FOI portal. Unfortunately the access rules do not seem to cover
the university system here, but I'll discuss with Guy and the Open Data HK
group <http://opendatahk.com/> to see if there are ways around this. The
granting agency here does seem to be covered, and I think Guy is adding the
universities to the platform anyway, so we'll just submit requests and see
if we get the Swansea/QUB Elsevier drafted response back. If we find
anything interesting we'll let you all know.

Scott


On 25 April 2014 05:47, Michelle Brook <michelle.brook at okfn.org> wrote:

> Thanks Peter - looping the open access working group into this discussion.
>
> Michelle
>
>
> On 24 April 2014 19:29, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Brook has written a very good overview of this (
>> http://access.okfn.org/2014/04/24/the-cost-of-academic-publishing/)
>> which you should read first.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Mark Wainwright <
>> mark.wainwright at okfn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Tim Gowers has written a new post in which he tries to establish some
>>> facts that might bear on the Open Access debate. It's long but
>>> excellent.
>>>
>>> http://gowers.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/elsevier-journals-some-facts/
>>>
>>> Mark
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