[Open-access] [open-science] Open Science Anthology published
Mike Taylor
mike at indexdata.com
Sun Jan 19 16:58:44 UTC 2014
Heather argues:
> In summary, the view that open access can be usefully narrowly
> defined through legal terms is the view of a subset of the open
> access community.
That's technically true. But that subset includes (among many, many
others) BioMed Central, the Public Library of Science, Hindawi, eLIFE
and PeerJ. In other words, all the major players in the open-access
publishing world.
Heather's view that NC clauses can be useful lingers on in dark
corners, but no-one should be fooled that a preference for NC is
mainstream anywhere outside of the legacy barrier-based publishers
that are being dragged reluctantly into the open-access light and
fighting every aspect of openness along the way our of sheer habit and
bloody-mindedness.
-- Mike.
On 19 January 2014 15:49, Heather Morrison <Heather.Morrison at uottawa.ca> wrote:
> There are different perspectives in whether open access must include blanket
> pre-approval of commercial re-use rights downstream. Of the fully open
> access journals listed in DOAJ, for example, many do not use CC licenses at
> all and many that do use NC. Scholars who do use CC-BY licenses sometimes
> complain when they see people selling their work downstream. I argue for a
> broader understanding of open access modelled after Suber's short
> definition, along the lines of "open access works are digital, online, free
> of charge to the reader and free of most copyright and licensing
> restrictions". It is premature and a distraction to focus on particular
> licenses or licensing elements. Meaningful technical manipulation and re-use
> is best pursued thorough technical approaches, such as best practices for
> formats and consistent metadata. What has made the development and rapid
> spread of transit applications is a consistent standard for common
> standard-related information such as bus number, bus stop, scheduling. If
> every city follows a pattern and releases the data openly then apps can
> develop and spread quickly. A focus on licensing would not achieve this
> effect.
>
> Analysis of this example may be useful to highlight why more thought is
> needed on the question of licensing. Many would agree (including me, for
> this example), that prohibiting commercial use would stifle development and
> be largely counter-productive. On the other hand, with no restrictions on
> re-use, one future possibility is a scenario where everyone has to pay for
> transit information that is now free. That is, if people use commercial apps
> and not government services, governments may not continue to develop public
> services. This may be just fine if the commercial sector provides awesome
> service, for free, on an ongoing basis. However, one of the potential
> pitfalls of open licensing we should be paying more attention to is that "no
> downstream restrictions" includes "no downstream restrictions on paywalls".
>
> In summary, the view that open access can be usefully narrowly defined
> through legal terms is the view of a subset of the open access community.
>
> Best,
>
> Heather Morrison
>
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 7:36 AM, "Emanuil Tolev" <emanuil at cottagelabs.com>
> wrote:
>
> Discrimination based on field of endeavour I thought was the problem.
>
> Even if some copyright exceptions allow use in situations in which the
> license didn't *intend* to allow such use, the license still discriminates
> based on the type of activity ("field of endeavour") - doesn't allow
> commercial use.
>
> The legal ability to use something for commercial reasons and being told not
> to by the license are two separate things, though obviously related. Being
> told not to by the license makes it a non-open license according to OKD.
>
> This isn't to say non-commercial licenses are evil in all situations, I
> can't pass that judgement. But if you use a non-commercial clause, you
> certainly can't call the thing "open access" - it's accessible to some part
> of the population, but it is not "open". Like this anthology (which by the
> way looks like it's quite nice).
>
> Greetings,
> Emanuil
>
> On Sunday, 19 January 2014, Pal Lykkja <lykkja at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What is the problem with CC-NC if it will be possible to reuse like TDM
>> throught copyright exceptions that EU are working for?
>>
>> Pål Lykkja
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds useful.
>>>
>>> One comment. CC-NC is not Open Access under BOAI- and OKD- definitions.
>>> I'd urge you to make the book CC-BY. If there are reasons that you can't do
>>> this, please drop the term "Open Access" and call it "free-of-charge". CC-NC
>>> forbids many forms of redistribution and re-use
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Ulrich Herb <u.herb at scinoptica.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear lists,
>>>>
>>>> perhaps this might be of interest: Yesterday an anthology on Open
>>>> Science was published: "Opening Science - The Evolving Guide on How the
>>>> Internet is Changing Research, Collaboration and Scholarly Publishing". It
>>>> has been edited by Sönke Bartling from the German Cancer Research Center in
>>>> Heidelberg and Sascha Friesike, researcher at the Alexander von Humboldt
>>>> Institute in Berlin. The anthology knows four manifestations: it is
>>>> available as a printed book, as an Open Access e-Book or PDF collection
>>>> under a CC BY-NC license, and as an editable living document via Github. for
>>>> further information please visit:
>>>> http://www.openingscience.org/get-the-book/
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Ulrich Herb
>>>>
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