[Open-access] scholarly articles still not in OA. What could we do?

Fri Jan 31 15:46:44 UTC 2014

Isn't it the case that for everything published before 1999 the copyright
does not apply to any electronic version?

Tom

On Friday, January 31, 2014, Mike Taylor <mike at indexdata.com> wrote:

> Between you and me ... (c) is rife in the world of vertebrate
> palaeontology, where large collections of old but not-out-of-copyright
> papers routinely circulate.
>
> -- Mike.
>
>
> On 31 January 2014 14:43, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > I fully understand. It's not just in HSS. Chemical papers 100 years old
> are
> > still useful. And certainly i observational biology.
> >
> > It's worth using the OAButton - if only to reduce your blood pressure. It
> > may also highlight the problem - if OAButton can count the ages of the
> > papers that might show your problem was common.
> >
> > The forces for change could be (a) legislation. (b) a change in the
> > publishing market. Neither are fast. (c) Civil disobedience would also
> work.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Bjoern Brembs <b.brembs at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Friday, January 31, 2014, 3:03:56 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> > But I am under the impression that this fight tends to forget
> >> > former journals, old papers, etc. some of which are, at
> >> > least in social sciences, still relevant and useful. Could
> >> > we launch a sort of a campaign "OA for now, but also OA to
> >> > the past", in order to entice researchers to put all their
> >> > old papers in OA? Or support libraries that could do it
> >> > with their old collections or older series? Maybe this is
> >> > already in the make and I am not aware of it?
> >>
> >> This is something that I think should be solvable in principle.
> >> Copyright expires after a number of years. Depending on several factors,
> >> this can be 28 years, 70 years, 95 years or 120 years. So in most
> cases, a
> >> 1994 article is still protected by copyright and is just as difficult to
> >> make OA as any other copyrighted, more recent article.
> >>
> >> But I agree with you that libraries should try and harvest everything,
> >> independent of its protection and make available everything that is
> legal to
> >> make available.
> >> I would really like to see how one would apply copyright law to
> determine
> >> which articles in the scholarly literature could be seen as publicly
> >> accessible at this point in time and what percentage of the scholarly
> >> literature this would be.
> >> Does anybody know someone who could answer this question, ideally in
> paper
> >> form for our special issue? :-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Bjoern
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Björn Brembs
> >> ---------------------------------------------
> >> http://brembs.net
> >> Neurogenetics
> >> Universität Regensburg
> >> Germany
> >>
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