[Open-access] [open-science] Elsevier caught selling articles that should have been open access

William Gunn william.gunn at gmail.com
Tue Mar 10 19:14:32 UTC 2015


I don't know the specific details of this case & am not the person to
discuss it, but I can say that according to the folks I've been talking to
on the publisher side, NC does not prevent text and data mining, nor does
it prevent use in the classroom. It's really about selling the content
itself.


William Gunn
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm286 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:17 AM, S.C. Edmunds <
> scott at gigasciencejournal.com> wrote:
>
>> Anybody want to buy some reprints
>> <https://s100.copyright.com/AppDispatchServlet?publisherName=Wiley&publication=CLM&title=HIV%20infection%20en%20route%20to%20endogenization%3A%20two%20cases&publicationDate=18%20DEC%202014&author=P.%20Colson%2CI.%20Ravaux%2CC.%20Tamalet%2CO.%20Glazunova%2CE.%20Baptiste%2CE.%20Chabriere%2CA.%20Wiedemann%2CC.%20Lacabaratz%2CM.%20Chefrour%2CC.%20Picard%2CA.%20Stein%2CY.%20Levy%2CD.%20Raoult&startPage=1280&endPage=1288&copyright=%C2%A9%202014%20The%20Authors%20Clinical%20Microbiology%20and%20Infection%20%C2%A9%202014%20European%20Society%20of%20Clinical%20Microbiology%20and%20Infectious%20Diseases&contentID=10.1111%2F1469-0691.12807&orderSource=Wileyonline&orderBeanReset=true&oa=creativeCommonsBy-nc-nd>?
>> Would it be "quintuple dipping" if so? One of the reasons the more old
>> school publishers are thought to be trying to cling on to the NC clauses in
>> their "OA" offerings is that they don't want to lose revenue from reprints
>> and other similar transactions.
>>
>>
> I have done a lot of checking in the past in this respect and it's very
> common. Haven't checked this one...
>
> Yes, you are right. The NC is driven by reprints and the justification for
> it is - that publishers give to authors - is almost completely specious.
> Unfortunately some academics believe CC-NC protects their moral rights (it
> doesn't) and the whole area is seriously MUDdied and FUDdled. CC-NC:
> * prevents reuse (without permission) of material for teaching
> * protects the publishers reprint market.
>
>
>
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