<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Tom Olijhoek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom.olijhoek@gmail.com">tom.olijhoek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I have talked to Bart and he is all in for crowdsourcing through MalariaWorld.</div><div>Peter, could you outline what it is that they should do? Editing links to full text, editing tags for Open Access? more?</div>
</blockquote><div><br>Fantastic!<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>During the meeting you said that we could approach WHO and others once we would be ready to go public. As I recall it you mentioned an Alphaversion for the Index to be ready in 2-3 weeks.</div><div>Do you then plan to go public once we have the Alpha version, that is how I understood it.. </div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div><br></div></font></span></blockquote><div>Yes, possibly, yes<br><br>It's down to the editability and that's down to Mark and the team. <br><br>I am lining up several demos of malaria.bibsoup<br>* a well-known Open Access publisher at start March<br>
* a well-known UK research funder<br>* UKPMC<br>* yourselves<br><br>When demoing things to non-geeks you have to hit people in the first 15 seconds. The wow! factor. If you foul up you never get a second chance. Bibserver is very close to that. But it can, occasionally, fall over. <br>
<br>Bibsoup is ready for query and display NOW. The question is - is there enough useful stuff in the current content? can you find questions which will excite people **in the malaria field**. If yes, then we need to start preparing them now. <br>
<br>If there needs to be more info in malaria.bibsoup then it has to be added either machines or humans or both. We cannot use textmining of content because of publisher-restrictions. (We could do this on the BOAI-subset once we determine it).<br>
<br>There a few things we may be able to do automatically:<br>* extract author affiliations from splashpages<br>* extract their cities and countries. This could be valuable as it shows collaborative projects.<br>* textmine the online abstracts. I don't think there is any contractual restriction on this so they would have to plead copyright violation.<br>
* label the default Openness by using Ross Mounce's fantastic spreadsheet. Thus all BMC and PLoS journals translate to open - we can add that. All Elsevier papers (eg in Cell) are default closed. We need a symbol for "closed by default". <br>
<br>So I suspect that the first phase will be human annotation. This means that we have to have the editing tool. I can see the following strategies:<br>* adding links to other resources. Nice to read an online resource (could be data, etc.)and be able to click a button and have it added to the bibsoup entry<br>
* annotating openness. When we follow the entry on a closed by default and find that the paper is actually visible we can annotate it as such<br>* incorporate alt-metrics<br><br>Mark knows what we need better than we do ourselves :-) <br>
<br>So what we should do now is to discuss what we want, what's possible, when it's possible. As soon as something is reasonably possible we look for crowdsourcing.<br><br>For crowdsourcing there are very strong social norms. Crowdsourcers are first-class citizens. They are part of us. Read "Reinventing Discovery". Visit Galaxy Zoo. Look at openStreetMap. Get this right and this will take off. The world will own the result. <br>
<br>But it's important to start with a good (not perfect) toolkit. Crowdsourcing depends on doing the job at hand - not fighting and designing the tools. We might , of course, find tool designers who want to play that role here. If we start to be successful we certainly will.<br>
<br>BTW I was amazed and horrified to find yesterday that 60% of Tawny Owls in UK have malaria. It's in Wikpedia. But the original paper is closed access.. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_malaria">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avian_malaria</a> <br>
<br>P.<br><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">TOM<br>
<br></font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pm286@cam.ac.uk" target="_blank">pm286@cam.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
I have all members of the etherpad group in my skype except Klaus who doesn't have skype.<br><br>I have started an FAQ at <a href="http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/access/FAQs" target="_blank">http://wiki.okfn.org/Working_Groups/access/FAQs</a>. I often find this a good way of working out the essental Questions. Feel free to edit.<br>
<br>The Malaria Bibsoup is at <a href="http://malaria.bibsoup.net" target="_blank">http://malaria.bibsoup.net</a> Have a play with it.<br><br>Laura - you are online so will call you as part of the call anyway.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>P.<br><br clear="all">
<br>-- <br>Peter Murray-Rust<br>Reader in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>University of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br><a href="tel:%2B44-1223-763069" value="+441223763069" target="_blank">+44-1223-763069</a><br>
</font></span><br></div></div><div class="im">_______________________________________________<br>
open-access mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:open-access@lists.okfn.org" target="_blank">open-access@lists.okfn.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access" target="_blank">http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access</a><br>
<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Peter Murray-Rust<br>Reader in Molecular Informatics<br>Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry<br>University of Cambridge<br>CB2 1EW, UK<br>+44-1223-763069<br>