<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Fabiana Kubke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mf.kubke@gmail.com" target="_blank">mf.kubke@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am a bit late to the discussion - but if anyone is interested there is interesting data on library expenditures in New Zealand and Australia here <a href="http://statistics.caul.edu.au/inst_data.php" target="_blank">http://statistics.caul.edu.au/inst_data.php</a></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>You're not late... :-) this is very welcome.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
If I read hte data correctly, New Zealand spends about 50 million p.a. (NZ Dollars) in serial subscriptions. This does not include the copyright licencing fees that allow the reuse for education (as far as I understand).</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can you expand on the re-use fees? This is an additional cost to subscriptions. Re-use payments are at least as problematic as subscriptions. But even harder to get a handle on. (?more FOIs?)</div>
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<div><br></div><div>-F</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Matthew Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthew.brett@gmail.com" target="_blank">matthew.brett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Mr. Puneet Kishor <<a href="mailto:punk.kish@gmail.com" target="_blank">punk.kish@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Bjoern Brembs <<a href="mailto:b.brembs@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.brembs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Maybe I can understand what this is all about, if someone can explain to me what giving Elsevier a rap on the knuckles should actually accomplish in the grand scheme of things?<br>
><br>
> I didn't mean to derail the conversation nor make it focus (or not) on a specific publisher. My intent was to determine if the fight is to lower the profits for the publishers or to make them do what they promised and what the researchers expect them to do?<br>
><br>
> Personally, I am more interested in the latter than in the merits or demerits of unbridled capitalism, but I understand different strokes move different folks.<br>
<br>
</div>It's a shame to couch it in terms of 'capitalism', pulls triggers for<br>
distracting explosions.<br>
<br>
I guess we most of us agree that, if Elsevier is using an effective<br>
monopoly to take large amounts of money from academia for a service<br>
that could be much cheaper, then that's worth talking about.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Matthew<br>
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