[open-bibliography] Metadata aggregators, discovery tools and libraries

Sun Jan 23 15:07:57 UTC 2011

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:50 PM, David FLANDERS <flandda at jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> https://pims.jisc.ac.uk/projects/view/1390 <-- let me know if you need
> further introductions. /dff
>
> So just to check this is a JISC-funded project which produces material that
(after April) I will not have access to (I am not a library and I do not
have 650 Eur) so it's of no use and another example of a closed system.

It is not clear what they have built and whether the code and system is
Open. I believe that morally and probably contractually it should be. So
that we should be able to get their complete system for free and install it
ourselves.

Is that correct David?

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: open-bibliography-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:open-
> > bibliography-bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Jim Pitman
> > Sent: 22 January 2011 22:26
> > To: open-bibliography at lists.okfn.org
> > Subject: Re: [open-bibliography] Metadata aggregators, discovery tools
> > and libraries
> >
> > Adrian, all very interesting, and kudos to Jonathan for airing out this
> > issue in the blogosphere. Following are some comments.
> >
> >
> > > "Many many publishers these days provide RSS feeds with metadata of
> > > their recent publications. By consuming these feeds, and storing what
> > > you get over time, JournalTOCs is building a giant database of
> > article
> > > metadata — that only goes back as far as when they started collecting
> > > it. My impression is that JournalTOCs is looking for a way to
> > monetize
> > > this at a profit however, rather than provide it in a cooperative
> > > cost-sharing basis."[4]
> > > Similar approaches have already been discussed on this list. Have you
> > > already heard about this service? Obviously nobody has objected yet
> > > against what it does. Maybe we could approach them about opening up
> > > the data... Interestingly, their API is licensed CC-BY.[5]
> >
> > Well, the JOurnalTOCs API is CC-BY so there seems to be no legal
> > impediment to massively caching
> > and re-exposing their data, and e.g. feeding it to Krichel's
> > authorclaim.  I can provide funding for API plumbing to feed data
> > in subjects I care about from JournalTOCs to a place where I am more
> > confident it cant be closed off and I and other biblio researchers
> > have bulk access by rsync or similar for industrial processing. Anyone
> > out there available to do this
> > sort of work? Or suggestions of good contractors for this purpose?
> > I could do some of this with Berkeley based resources, but I would much
> > rather see a distributed effort of this kind.
> > I would love to see OKFN provide the server and database support for
> > this.
> > I have no problem with using CC-BY for this purpose. You just stick in
> > each record a field with
> > the CC-BY acknowledgement, and then these records can be freely
> > exchanged and mixed with others.
> > Especially if subsequent aggregation is done with CC0, it seems there
> > is no attribution stacking.
> > Anyone else can aggregrate subsets with CC0 too, and the individual
> > records only need to carry the original
> > CC-BY from JOurnalTOCs.
> >
> > In any case I think JournalTOCs is providing a great service, and OKFN
> > should do what it can to engage them
> > and to encourage and support their efforts.  Anyone on this list have a
> > connection to JournalTOCs?
> >
> > --Jim
> >
> > > [1] http://pegasuslibrarian.com/2011/01/heads-they-win-tales-we-lose-
> > discovery-tools-will-never-deliver-on-their-promise.html
> > > [2] http://friendfeed.com/lris/f9c18716/heads-they-win-tales-we-lose-
> > discovery-tools
> > > [3] http://www.journaltocs.hw.ac.uk/
> > > [4] http://bibwild.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/more-on-aggregating-
> > article-metadata/
> > > [5] http://www.journaltocs.ac.uk/index.php?action=about
> >
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Peter Murray-Rust
Reader in Molecular Informatics
Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
University of Cambridge
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