[open-bibliography] Openbiblio at OCLC
kcoyle at kcoyle.net
Thu May 26 13:38:14 UTC 2011
Quoting Adrian Pohl <adrian.pohl at okfn.org>:
>> Our preliminary thoughts on Open Data Licensing
>> ?We are considering recommending ODC-BY
>> ?Distinguishes between the database and its contents (or portions of
>> ?[Member DATABASE NAME] would be the name of the member?s or group?s
>> catalog, and the member or group = the licensor
>> ?License notice wording in accordance with instructions in ODC licenses
>> ?Still under investigation?your input invited and welcome
> I read this like OCLC may choose a similar approach that the hbz and
> another German library service center (BSZ) have chosen to open up a
> union catalog: OCLC basically would recommend open licensing for parts
> of WorldCat.
As far as I can tell, this only refers to OCLC members releasing data
from their own library catalogs. That's also what the record use
policy covers: members sharing their catalog data with others. OCLC
does contract for use of WorldCat data, as it has with Google for
GoogleBooks. That's unrelated to the policy.
> If a member library or group wants to follow the
> recommendation, OCLC publishes the data with holdings from the member
> or member group as Open Data under an ODC-BY license. This is my take
> on interpreting these slides. Roy, it would be good if you could bring
> some more clarity into this...
>  http://www.oclc.org/worldcat/recorduse/policy/forum/forum.pdf
>> I'm not totally discouraged -- there are folks at OCLC who understand LOD
>> and there are some interesting LD efforts there (http://dewey.info and
>> http://viaf.org). I really think that the LOD "tsunami" will have an effect
>> on OCLC, and we'll see movement in that direction. To my mind the best
>> approach is to continue to develop LOD and to continue to raise awareness.
>> I had a call this morning with a group of open data advocates in Italy, and
>> they report the same issues that many are finding, which is that the actual
>> legal status of library data is unknown. Continuing that conversation in all
>> available venues is going to be a key "consciousness raising" act; the more
>> we understand that issue widely in our community the more we will find an
>> expectation of openness. That expectation is our strongest weapon.
>> We also need to educate people about LD -- that linked data is not a
>> database dump but is an interaction between data created by different people
>> possibly in different communities. I think this will ease some of the fears
>> that people have. I try to explain that letting people link to you does not
>> change your data anymore than letting people link to your web site changes
>> the site. It's possible that we can reconcile business models and linking
>> when this is better understood.
>>> I simply don't understand why a cooperative wants that record use
>>> policy. "Co-operatives are based on the values of self-help,
>>> self-responsibility, democracy, equality, equity and solidarity. In
>>> the tradition of their founders, co-operative members believe in the
>>> ethical values of honesty, openness, social responsibility and caring
>>> for others." (from www.ica.coop) OK, it might have been adopted
>>> democratically, while solidarity and social responsibility are probably
>>> arguable, but several of the others seem less so.
>>> Of course, I didn't find the ICA values on oclc.org just now!
>>> The OCLC values and principles that you can download from
>>> are very different. If they lose the argument in court over whether
>>> they are a co-op, I think those unusual values and principles may be
>>> part of the reason.
>>> Down again...
>>> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
>>> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician.
>>> In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
>>> Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha
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