[open-bibliography] getting a personal bib library out

Wed Jan 18 23:35:04 UTC 2012

Mark, 
I tried following your instructions below, but I could not make them work.
To reiterate my point, after uploading a dataset from

https://raw.github.com/langner/library/master/library.small.bib

to bibsoup, by whatever means, with whatever name, I should be able to retrieve this dataset from a url
as simple as

http://bibsoup.net?source=https://raw.github.com/langner/library/master/library.small.bib

Whatever your internal ids, I believe this is as simple as tagging  the dataset with its source
url, and retrieving from the database by the value of the source_url tag.  Isnt that so? I think
this is implicit in your instructions.
Can you please advise how to do that, and document exactly how to retrieve a dataset from its source url,
by a machine, and not by a human?

many thanks

--Jim

> >> It may be as simple as putting the source url in the right search field, I
> >> just dont see how.
>
> You can view all the collections at http://bibsoup.net/collections,
> and in the search bar there you can put in
> "http://bibserver.berkeley.edu/tmp/testbib.bib"
> to return any collection that was created from that source. There are
> search options on the main search pages where you can select exact
> match (equivalent to adding the quotes), but I have not put them on
> the collections page search yet. Will add on the next update.
>
>
> > I suspect this is solved by convention-over-configuration. We can recommend
> > that Bibsoupers use URLs and URIs in specified ways and if they do I suspect
> > this is soluble. It's the clash between addresses and names. We probably
> > need a Bibsoup URI Mint
> >
> >>
> >> It is a serious problem for any user who wishes to programmatically upload
> >> many bibliographies to
> >> BibSoup that there is no obvious way to retrieve them after programmatic
> >> upload without user
> >> retaining a dictionary to e.g. map
> >> https://raw.github.com/langner/library/master/library.small.bib to
> >> karol_m_langer_s_bibliography
>
> We did originally allow the collection ID to be created from the
> source URL if a collection ID were not provided, but this created long
> and unwieldy collection IDs so we opted for requiring one is provided.
> If you are doing programmatic upload, you must have to define the
> collection IDs in advance anyway, so do you not already know what they
> are for subsequent queries? If you are meaning the case where you
> upload a collection from a particular URL a second time, then you do
> not actually have to worry about matching the collection IDs - any
> collection that you previously created will be overwritten if it has
> the same source URL, and the collection ID will be altered to match
> whichever new collection ID you provide (or will be the same if you
> use the same collection ID).
>
> As Peter says, I am really glad that overall this is working well for
> people, and that we can create these collections rapidly. The work
> this week on updating the websites and issue lists is going well, so
> we are in a good position to do some final tweaking and put up more
> examples.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >>
> > Do you mean find the Bibservers or retrieve their content? I fully agree
> > that a Bibserver needs something like .dump()
> >
> >>
> >> many thanks
> >>
> >>
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> >
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