[open-bibliography] Inviting community engagement on building a bibliographic roadmap

Sat Jan 19 23:27:24 UTC 2013

Crossref are also working on providing bibJSON bib metadata by content
negotiation. From what I have seen, what it provides is only whatever the
publishers have provided and in a lot of cases it is unfortunately not very
useful - for example, not including title and authors or any unique ID. The
data that is supplied meets the definition of open bibliographic metadata
as per the open biblio principles. But I don't know if license is
explicitly stated anywhere.

Mark

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:59 PM, <johnson.tom at gmail.com> wrote:

> Re: serials metadata.
>
> CrossRef serves up metadata (RDF, and BibTex) via content negotiation.
> It's not directly from the publishers, but it is submitted by them as a
> part of the DOI registration process.
>
> I'm not sure if there is clear licensing or not.
>
>
>
> On Jan 19, 2013, at 13:54, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net> wrote:
>
> > I was thinking of sound recordings, since, AFAIK, the market for scores
> is pretty much a niche market. Much of the impetus for creating and
> spreading metadata has been online sales sites like Amazon, and perhaps
> iTunes (although I do not know where the latter gets its metadata from).
> You can easily find studies addressed to the publishing industry about
> metadata and sales -- although, in fact, these aren't as conclusive as one
> might hope.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > On 1/19/13 1:18 PM, Matthew Dovey wrote:
> >> I must confess when I first saw the posts about publishers giving
> metadata
> >> away, I initially read that as referencing monograph/book publishers
> since
> >> these are likely to see the metadata as purely advertising/marketing
> >> material to the like of Amazon et al. and didn't initially think of
> serials.
> >>
> >> I think there may also be different economic models in the music
> publishing
> >> world as well - when you say "music publishers" are you talking about
> >> publishers of music scores or publishers of musical performances (e.g.
> >> audio/video)?
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: open-bibliography-bounces at lists.okfn.org [mailto:
> open-bibliography-
> >>> bounces at lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle
> >>> Sent: 19 January 2013 20:44
> >>> To: Peter Murray-Rust; List for Working Group on Open Bibliographic
> Data
> >>> Subject: Re: [open-bibliography] Inviting community engagement on
> building
> >>> a bibliographic roadmap
> >>>
> >>> Right, the folks giving away their metadata (because it helps sales)
> are
> >>> generally the book publishers. Journal publication has an entirely
> >> different
> >>> economic model because it' isn't a one-time sale but a subscription,
> and I
> >>> haven't found a publisher-provided metadata for journal publications
> >> (which
> >>> would cover the publication, not its contents). If journal publishers
> >> would get
> >>> away from the serial view and publish and sell articles as monographs,
> we
> >>> might see a major change in their view of metadata. In fact, the whole
> >>> journal format is beginning to look old-fashioned to me as a product
> >>> category.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know yet about music publishers -- I don't think they yet have
> a
> >>> standard metadata format.
> >>>
> >>> kc.
> >>>
> >>> On 1/19/13 11:51 AM, Peter Murray-Rust wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle at kcoyle.net
> >>>> <mailto:kcoyle at kcoyle.net>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     Sorry, Roy. Just wanted some examples of publishers making their
> >>>>     ONIX data openly available. I'll look for a better example.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks - and I assume that Bibserver can hack this. It looks like it's
> >>>> monographs not serials.
> >>>>
> >>>> P.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Peter Murray-Rust
> >>>> Reader in Molecular Informatics
> >>>> Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry
> >>>> University of Cambridge
> >>>> CB2 1EW, UK
> >>>> +44-1223-763069
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Karen Coyle
> >>> kcoyle at kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
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> >>> m: 1-510-435-8234
> >>> skype: kcoylenet
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> >>
> >
> > --
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