[Open-data-census] public geodata (OpenStreetMap) as an *incorrect* source for two ODI geodata datasets
Maxim Dubinin
sim at gis-lab.info
Mon Dec 15 19:49:50 UTC 2014
Hi again,
as a continuation from my previous email I'd like to provide two
examples from geodata field (my field of expertise). They sort of stem from
the confusion that at least some people misread ODI as open data (any
sources), but not open government data.
==National Map==
Q: Can we use OpenStreetMap as a National Map dataset?
Example: Poland lists http://openstreetmap.org.pl as National Map (Mor
pointed out that this is legacy error from 2013).
A: No, we can't. No matter how we like OSM, this is NOT a governmental
dataset, though it might contain some government data and can be used
by governments (I believe even as a National Map equivalent
in some countries).
Suggestion: Add this to FAQ
==ZIP codes==
Q: In 2014 there appeared the qualification for this dataset stating that:
"A database which gives a location in terms of the name of a town or a
street without lat/long co-ordinates is not considered acceptable
unless the name of the town or street can be further converted to a
latitude and longitude by means of other open data (eg an open
gazetteer with latitude and longitude attributes)."
If one read it verbatim, it could be interpreted as "take you list
of official zip codes with addresses - run through OSM geocoder -
here is your 9/9 point dataset". And as we have OSM now everywhere,
essentially the qualification for the zip codes dataset can be reduced
to:
"A database of postcodes/zipcodes with associated addresses."
A (from Christian Villum): Help-text phrase about Postcodes is a bit ambiguous, because you're
right that it can fully be understood in a way that allows the use of
third party data to connect addresses with geo-location data. However
what is meant is that the "other open data" referred may only be from
a third party if the interconnection is done *on* the government
portal. In other words, only if the government provides the correlated
data (their own postcode/address data with, say, OSM geo-location
data) on the official source/portal will it qualify for inclusion in
the Index.
Suggestion: Fix the qualification to become something like this:
"A database which gives a location in terms of the name of a town or a
street without lat/long co-ordinates is not considered acceptable
unless the name of the town or street can be further converted to a
latitude and longitude by means of other open data (eg an open
gazetteer with latitude and longitude attributes) and THE
RESULTING JOINT DATASET IS OBTAINABLE FROM GOVERNMENT WEBSITE."
Hope it will sort some of the criticism out.
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Maxim Dubinin
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