[open-economics] Doodle Poll for the Apps4Italy Hackday
dirk.heine at okfn.org
Thu Dec 22 04:34:18 UTC 2011
On Sunday I sent an email to this list but sent it off using a
non-registered email address and just realized that it never went through,
waiting for moderator approval (sorry, somewhat overworked at the moment).
I am hence re-sending it and would much appreciate if you could still read
it. And I would even more appreciate if you could reply to the below.
Many thanks and best wishes!
On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dirk Heine <dirk.heine at cantab.net> wrote:
> Dear team,
> I am incredibly sorry that I did not attend. The last week at the fund was
> a bit too much for me and at the end of it I forgot our meeting.
> I would be grateful if -despite my absence- I could still make a few
> inputs. Particularly, I would much appreciate a decision on item 4.
> Update on meeting at World Bank: I had an informal lunch meeting on
> Tuesday with people from the World Bank's Innovation Practice team and that
> was incredibly interesting. They are still interested in Yourtopia; asked
> how we are following up on it (I told then them about ProgressVote). They
> will publish an internal article in due course on how Apps4Dev winners
> continued their apps. Velichka and I provided answers for this.
> Worldbank is also organising a new competition: Apps4Climate. I wanted
> to ask if we would like to update our app http://energy.publicdata.eu(to use Worldbank data and more countries) and submit it to that
> Methodological work: http://wiki.okfn.org/ProgressVote is now updated
> with our newest concept. In terms of robustness, it is a big step ahead
> from Yourtopia.
> I would like to suggest the following approach to ProgressVote at
> Apps4Italy: I think we all are incredibly overwhelmed with deadlines at the
> moment and I think -if left on our own- major programming efforts may not
> be realistic currently. But we have done all preparation work in terms of
> the economics, we have also identified suitable data, and delaying
> ProgressVote would be a big pity in our wider attempts to push for open
> economic policy since several countries are working on social progress
> measurement NOW (following a decision of several EU governments after the
> Stiglitz report). The time to submit it is hence also now; delaying it
> would significantly reduce our potential impact. Furthermore, particularly
> in Italy there is a need to focus political debate at issues beyond budget
> cuts: everyone is deep in austerity talk and our app may instead want to
> contribute to debate on the growth/progress debate that is needed in the
> So how could we realize this project despite the incredibly tight time
> schedules affecting everyone in the team at the moment? I suggest that we
> should now dedicate the funds we got from Yourtopia for 1 experienced data
> visualizer to take a lead on programmning ProgressVote. I could still work
> on data collection and economics, Rosamaria has offered her support too and
> the planned HackDay will be great for finishing up. But I suggest we do
> need a programming and visualisation expert to take the lead in the
> meantime; and that may only be realistic if we dedicate funds now.
> I would much appreciate your feedback, particularly on actionable item
> Again, very sorry for missing the call. Any reply would be greatly
> Best wishes,
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