[Open-education] Wikimania 2014: Wikipedia belongs in Education
leutha at fabiant.eu
leutha at fabiant.eu
Wed Aug 13 12:53:05 UTC 2014
Hi all,
One of the Wikimania sessions I really enjoyed Informed but unempowered
<http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Informed_but_unempowered>
was given by Mako Hill.
Check his academic page <http://mako.cc/academic/> to download a pdf of his
Almost Wikipedia: What eight early online collaborative encyclopedia projects
reveal about the mechanisms of collective action.
He uses Resource Mobilization Theory in the context of an environment where
"many peer production projects leave behind “digital traces” in the form of
publicly available archival data. These data are of scope and scale that was
unavailable to previous scholars of mobilization. This more complete record
allows researchers to explore nascent attempts at movements that did not succeed
in attracting any additional participants or that attracted participants but did
not accomplish their initial goals."
This looks like an interesting approach to the problem outlined below, and the
more we are able to produce comparable data sets about projects the easier it
will be to develop more effective models of resource mobilisation.
all the best
Leutha
> On 12 August 2014 at 14:54 Rebecca Kahn <bekka.kahn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks so much, Lorna - that's a really useful post, and articulates so much
> of what we've been discussing internally at P2PU and elsewhere.
>
> And thanks to Marieke, as always, for the thoughtful, useful summaries.
>
> Yay for the librarians!
>
>
> On 12 August 2014 14:39, Lorna M Campbell <lorna.m.campbell at icloud.com
> <mailto:lorna.m.campbell at icloud.com> > wrote:
> > > Hi Marieke,
> >
> > No, no, not tangential at all! I think these are fundamental issues that
> > need to be addressed by the "open community", if such a thing can be said to
> > exist. Unfortunately it's not an issue that I have any answers for, in fact
> > it's something I've been grappling with myself over the last year. The more
> > we have to focus on bringing in project funding to pay the bills, the less
> > time we often have to devote to open education practice. That certainly
> > doesn't mean that I am any less committed to open education, far from it,
> > but it does make it harder to engage with open education initiatives.
> >
> > My former Cetis colleague Sheila MacNeill recently wrote an intersting
> > blog post exploring some of these issues and asking whether open education
> > is a "luxury item or everyday essential"
> > http://howsheilaseesit.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/open-education-practice-luxury-item-or-everyday-essential-openscot/
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lorna
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 Aug 2014, at 13:27, Marieke Guy wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > > Hi Lorna,
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading!
> > >
> > > The argument Luis Villa from the Wikimedia Foundation Counsel was
> > > making was that despite lawyers and economists telling us to be weary
> > > people still want to share. It is almost an internal need - reciprocity.
> > > Or 'give and take'.
> > >
> > > I think this is an incredibly important point. At the heart of Open
> > > Movements there is fundamental belief that openness and sharing are good
> > > things. I'm sure most of us on this list will share this belief. And for
> > > many education sits at the core of openness and sharing. Education
> > > (possibly not traditional education systems but new open education
> > > systems) will get us out of the mess that selfishness and closed attitudes
> > > have got us in to. As Nelson Mandela said "Education is the most powerful
> > > weapon which you can use to change the world."
> > >
> > > However for many of us there is a problem here. We still need to
> > > pay the bills...openness needs funding. And when there is money available
> > > sometimes this leads to competition between organisations (which is why I
> > > was pleased to be involved in the Open Coallition workshop). And when
> > > there isn't money available it means many people who believe in open have
> > > to pay their bills in another way.
> > >
> > > So what is the answer?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure, maybe a significant rethinking of our economy.
> > > Wikipedia have made it work and it's not a easy task. However I do believe
> > > that an open movement - a body of people who believe that sharing is a
> > > good thing, and equity and equality are good things - this is a step in
> > > the right direction.
> > >
> > > Hope I haven't gone off in a complete tangent here...!
> > >
> > > Marieke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/08/2014 12:04, Lorna M Campbell wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > Hi Marieke,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for sharing this really great write up of Wikimania.
> > > > I was really disappointed not to be able to get there myself, so this
> > > > is the next best thing!
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like education is very firmly at the heart of
> > > > Wikimedia's mission, which I certainly see as a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > I'm also really interested to see the issue of reciprocity
> > > > being discussed in relation to "free" and "open". This comes up from
> > > > time to time, but I think it warrants greater exploration, particularly
> > > > at a time when it's increasingly difficult for some colleagues to engage
> > > > with voluntary and un-funded open education initiatives.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Lorna
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12 Aug 2014, at 11:13, Marieke Guy wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > We had a great time at Wikimania last week. It was
> > > > > lovely to meet so many of you at our community stand and hopefully get
> > > > > some new recruits for the working group too! There were lots of great
> > > > > sessions on education and open learning and teaching practice. We've
> > > > > written two posts about the event:
> > > > > * Wikimania 2014: Wikipedia belongs in Education
> > > > > <http://education.okfn.org/wikimania-2014-wikipedia-belongs-in-education/>
> > > > > * Wikimania 2014: Wikidata all the way
> > > > >
> > > > > If you attended how about sharing your thoughts and
> > > > > take homes!
> > > > >
> > > > > Marieke
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Marieke Guy
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